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Carl:
God Friday morning
Carl:
Good
Guess:
lol
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CarlFan:
Not a Bromance though!
CarlFan:
but if you ever leave Linda!
Guess:
he will be fine in prison....they will take care of him,,
Guess:
lol
CarlFan:
Sounds like if you pay them $1000 you are guarnteed to have an affair
Guess:
didn't they violate some of their moral codes..being a part of Ashley Madison
CarlFan:
That's the point, they gave you permission to put them aside because it was secret!
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Sungold:
Good Morning
Sungold:
This is the latest on the red light camera company. Isn't this the same company that Redding uses? http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/08/former-red-light-camera-ceo-pleads-guilty-in-2m-chicago-bribery-case/
CarlFan:
Can't imagine how many husbands are telling their wives how stupid do you have to be, but of course there are people who could actually use your information to register just to get you in trouble, my wife, she wouldn't believe it, I would have a frying pan in my ear
CarlFan:
Redflex is the company
CarlFan:
Chicago, there is a surprise, where morals are dormant
Sungold:
Same company then. Wonder if the City knew of all the fraud and bribery. Seems to me they better change their provider.
CarlFan:
You can bet on it but it is the former CEo, so I am sure changes were made, if you believe that I have a bridge to sell you.
CarlFan:
They are a private company so I am sure they do favors!
CarlFan:
Gotta love that 50 current & former State employees are on the Ashley Madison list
CarlFan:
Trump is gaining momentum
CarlFan:
Trump does not want tp appeal the 14th Smmendment just have the Justices rule on "Jurisdiction", Trish had it wrong
CarlFan:
Can't say Anchor Baby
CarlFan:
MSNBC is having a fit and trying to create huge protest and offense to the term of Anchor Baby
CarlFan:
Should be a song Anchor B-A-B-Y, my Anchor B-A-B-Y
Sungold:
It seem Josh Dugger of 19 Kids and Counting fame now has admitted to cheating on his wife through the Askley Madison site. What a total mess he has made of a good life
CarlFan:
Calling people racists who use the term, I have been waiting for the one thing that qualifys me
Sungold:
Disgusting, I hope she leaves him and makes a better life for herself
CarlFan:
Duggar is like Kardashian, who cares
CarlFan:
Lost 3 yesterday, tragic
CarlFan:
Car crashed and they were overcome by the fire
CarlFan:
Don't you have cameras?
CarlFan:
Geeze hope this woman doesn't go to Sacramento
Guess:
we need more money to hire someone to create a plan because our elected officials are to lacking to come up with one... even though they ran their elections with a plan
CarlFan:
Isn't that where they just shot the Marines
CarlFan:
Sounds wonderful!
CarlFan:
They are working on a plan, Kristen is working on a plan for the homeless, Blueprint for Safety in progress, soon to be unveiled
Guess:
force the people out that we can't trust...criminals and municipal officials
Guess:
they said they already had a plan...thats why some voted for them
CarlFan:
Chief Paletti is working with GNRM to make them accountable, I think the councill is working on it
CarlFan:
I think there is an effort to woek on the quality of life issues
CarlFan:
How is it that there is constant complaints and negative and you don't see there is movement
CarlFan:
Holy cow does this guy ever shut up!
CarlFan:
It will all be better when we are in the State of Jefferson with this guy! The president of State of Jefferson
CarlFan:
Go find a corner to stand on
Sungold:
We don't need to hire anyone to create a plan for us. We have many talented folks with vision right here in Redding who have great vision, not to mention all the City staff being paid to do jobs and come up with creative ways to do things
Guess:
whatever happened to the charges with the District Attorney ? aren't the council subjects of an investigation currently ?
CarlFan:
or another county to live in, they are all so much better
CarlFan:
Tell him to run for council
Guess:
Sun, I agree
CarlFan:
You never see this guy running for anything, just his mouth!
Guess:
you may not like Terry but I don't hear anything come out of his mouth that isn't the truth... you may not like the idea of state of jefferson and it may never come to be but somehow it will make a difference going forward
Sungold:
When I worked with the City, we were all encouraged to come up with ideas, I did and they were listened to. You had to push a little to get your ideas in place but it was not impossible to accomplish.. Right now the City has bigger problems than trying to figure out how to make a river walk/park/
CarlFan:
Drink the koolaid
Sungold:
I like Terry, he tells it like it is....lots of folks don't want to hear that, they want to complain, complain and do nothing about anything
Guess:
our city is like a vehicle that has real maintenance problems that have been ignored but the city council just want to talk about what accessories they can add
CarlFan:
Isn't that all he does? Complain?
CarlFan:
Oh and tell everyone else to jump into the fight, everyone but him.
Guess:
Carlfan...what office have you ran for ?
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CarlFan:
I served, you?
Sungold:
Served what?
Guess:
is that a question ?
CarlFan:
sure
Guess:
thats what our current council will say years from now...."I served you ?"
CarlFan:
I served, have you?
Guess:
Carl Fan.... I did serve... but we are talking about you running for office...did you ?
CarlFan:
I am not running for council because i dodn't have a problem with them
Guess:
now who is drinking the kool-aid...lol
Sungold:
Yea well, I guess that would depend on the to person was if he served or not. I have seem city council members who did nothing but collect their pay and get medical
CarlFan:
I don't care fr some of them but they are working on the issues
Guess:
Sun..they have agendas..they just don't coincide with ours and they keep them secret...
Sungold:
I like to see people who get things done! I like to see folks who have a plan and get it done before we know about it. I like people to take action
Red:
So no one's opinion is valid or valued unless they have run for office?
CarlFan:
I agree Sungold and I believe we are seeing progress
Guess:
Carlfan...I agree they are working on things... but there is much more they are doing that doesn't meet the platform they ran on or moral standards.. but they are getting some things done
Sungold:
I sure hope so..because that is the platform they ran on....all of them
Red:
Can anyone name something the Council has done right so far?
CarlFan:
I do agree
CarlFan:
how abput the Blueprint?
Guess:
Red...there are a few things...but their list of screw-ups is growing fast
Red:
Curious if anyone can name one
CarlFan:
The approval of the sale
CarlFan:
The plan for the homeless
CarlFan:
The hotel
Guess:
Brent already had a "blueprint" ...its what he ran on...and it didnt cost us 80,000 dollars
Guess:
what plan for the homeless...what have we seen?
Red:
The sale was approved by the people on a ballot
Red:
What plan for the homeless?
CarlFan:
There has been a lot of effort into preparing a plan
Sungold:
The hotel is still out for debate, we well wait and see just how successful that is. Tell me one hotel in Redding that is not having trouble staying in the red.
Red:
Time will tell in the hotel, this council didn't do that either way...
CarlFan:
Ballot because of objections from who?
CarlFan:
It would have been approved with out the ballot
CarlFan:
They supported the sale of the property
Red:
Objections by the people
CarlFan:
approved the sale of the property before the union stepprd in
Red:
And again, not this council
CarlFan:
I think the people have spoken
CarlFan:
The union not the people
Red:
The Union aren't people?
CarlFan:
It will all be better when we have the State of Jefferson
Guess:
Carlfan, you are supporting a group of people led by senility and having no clue how to lead as a group.. petty personalities and their own agendas that do very little for our city
CarlFan:
Who will be the dictator uh govenor
CarlFan:
The momentum is in the right place
Guess:
lets see what level of explosion within the community occurs once the union negotiations come out ... should be good
Sungold:
Wolf
CarlFan:
You think State of Jefferson will be a right to work state?
CarlFan:
Wait till their friends at SEIU figure out they turned on them
Sungold:
State of Jefferson will not happen
CarlFan:
The unions will never let it happen
CarlFan:
Did the State of Jefferson cozy up to the union just to oppose the hotel?
Guess:
SOJ, may not happen but they may be able to get us a University or at least enough attention for the rest of the state to throw us a few projects that could help get us out of our economic rut
Sungold:
Is Simpson not a University?
Guess:
Sun, a UC
CarlFan:
Why isn't anyone asking State of Jefferson, what about the Unions, they don't want to answer that question, strange bed fellows right
Sungold:
Haven't they looked at Redding and determined the population would not support at UC?
Guess:
many times...
CarlFan:
A University with a Chancellor making over $200,000 a year
CarlFan:
Care to tell SEIU the plan?
Guess:
thats a low salary... compare that to our city staff... we have 137 city employees making more than 110,000 ..in this area..union doing a great job but just not sustainable
Guess:
its coming... city payroll is eating up a larger percentage of the general budget every year.... something is going to break...soon
CarlFan:
Seems to me State of Jefferson wants to be a right to work state and won't discuss the issue. I believe they claim the Unions are ruining the state
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Guess:
everyone already knows the unions are running the state... thats not even a discussion
CarlFan:
Well it will be a problem if they want people to jump on their band wagon
CarlFan:
The unions will come down on the State of Jefferson so fast
CarlFan:
I doubt they will get any headway
Guess:
I would be interested to know if the SOJ movement has developed a plan that goes that deep... do they want a right to work state ? I would think not..but who knows
CarlFan:
Well they complained a lot about them before the hotel issue
Red:
Any headway...past say the 8 counties already signed on?
CarlFan:
What about the unions, lets get it out here
CarlFan:
Right to Work State?
CarlFan:
Union scale to sustain the State of Jefferson
CarlFan:
It is not exactly 8
Guess:
they seem to have a lot of momentum
Red:
Not exactly eight?
Guess:
the Governor gives more reasons every day... new taxes, water rights... illegals rights and benefits...the list is long and growing
CarlFan:
I agree with that
CarlFan:
How about you answer my question about the Unions?
CarlFan:
I will be happy to answer yours Ted
CarlFan:
Red
Red:
What question exactly?
CarlFan:
State of Jefferson as a Right to Woek State?
Guess:
so partnering with the unions is bad...can we all agree with that...lol
CarlFan:
Convienient
Red:
That would be decided at the formation of the State by the people
CarlFan:
You should be a politician
Red:
I'm to honest
Sungold:
Child abuse is bigger than most think. Our daughter has four foster children and has had many others in her home. Most all were abused in some form or another. It is very sad.
CarlFan:
The message has been clear from your group, right to work state
CarlFan:
to answer your question, 2 of the counties are leaving it up to vote which does not mean you have the support, only that it will be on the ballot for people to choose
Guess:
all counties should provide the opportunity for the people to vote
Guess:
instead of a city council or supervisors decide for them...this is a topic larger than their influence
Red:
You forget the first part of both declarations that Lassen and Lake are both engaged in the demand for representatives
Red:
And as for "our" group, no one has said one way or the other on right to work...nor could we if we wanted
Red:
It's up to the people to decide, you seem to have issue with that Carlfan
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Guess:
have you guys seen the market today ? wow...another 300 point down day....this is getting real
Red:
Nonsense Guess...we're in recovery
Red:
Everything is awesome
Guess:
I forgot...what was I thinking...thanx Red...for getting me back to reality...
Guess:
some peoples 401ks are taking a hit...
Red:
No problem...now go get a cookie and some koolaid
Guess:
lol...already snacking on them...
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Sungold:
Kool aid is bad for you
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CarlFan:
Red when your good buddy who is a part of the State of Jefferson talks about unfunded liability and the unions are the demise of the state, i think it is fair to say the State of Jefferson people are not pro unions and maybe it is a personal choice
Sungold:
Pure water gets you going in the morning, most of us are dehydrated and need to take in water. It works
Sungold:
Time to get going...have a fun weekend all. Stay out of the smoke if you can.
Red:
If I complain about gas prices does it mean I have an issue with car makers?
CarlFan:
I think people want a clear picture of what and how the State of Jefferson will operate and so far what I have heard and seen is that the folks at the top want a right to work state
CarlFan:
apples and oranges
CarlFan:
you can discuss this issue, I won't tell
CarlFan:
Do you oppose Unions
CarlFan:
It's a personal choice
Red:
No its not, taking issue with unfunded liability choking out our children is not the same as having an issue with the union
CarlFan:
Doesn't mean you have to like it if the people decide they want it right?
CarlFan:
So answer the question are you a pro union advocate?
CarlFan:
It only matters coollectively right, you and all those who want the State of Jefferson just so happen not like unions
Kyle:
Carlfan, I would like to hear the answer also!
CarlFan:
Unfunded liabilities, right to work, it's all in the context?
CarlFan:
Lets hear honesty, it will be refreshing, claim it!
Kyle:
Doesnt take long to type yes or no..
CarlFan:
You are just a cog in the wheel but I have heard a lot of the cogs wanting a right to work state
CarlFan:
you are right Kyle, can't say anchor baby either
Kyle:
Im curious why he wont answer that question.
CarlFan:
Just think how many people in Unions in Lake & Lassen, maybe not a lot but Colusa, El Dorado changes the dynamic a bit
Red:
Wow, calm down turbo, was stirring gravy. I have no issue with private Union, publuc service yes I do. But that is my belief
CarlFan:
Great at least all of the public servants in all of the 8 counties can know where you stand!
Kyle:
Why is there an issue with public unions but not private?
Red:
Tail wagging the dog
CarlFan:
Just so you know, Unions are Unions and a lot of the public servants belong to some of these private unions, like SEIU
Kyle:
And private isnt? unions destroyed the auto industry losing thousands of jobs but thats okay with you!
Guess:
Union pay and benefits are about to take care of themselves... there is no answer for how a city our size and with limited or no GDP growth locally will be capable of meeting the unfunded liabilities and contracted pay raises in the near future
Red:
You run off and tell them Carlfan...at the top of your lungs....Red Smith doesn't support public unions and see who cares
CarlFan:
Oh and it is part of their charter, they will not cross pickit lines
CarlFan:
Don't get your panyty hose in a bunch, just like to know from where you and company come from
Kyle:
Glad to know where you stand
Red:
Listen here Sunday at 8am ill explain on air
Guess:
state, county and city unions are on auto pilot...state has a champion in Gov space cadet... but city and counties are on their own... curious to see what the unions and their supporters will be asking communities to give up in order to maintain current contracts
Red:
Call in sunday morning, you to Carlfan, better bring your lunch and a library book
CarlFan:
Explain what
CarlFan:
If you were a part of a Union you may have a different take on it
Red:
Csll in Sunday...we'll discuss it
Kyle:
Ive heard you enough.
CarlFan:
You explained yourself pretty well
Red:
Cowards