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Carl:
Good morning
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Carl:
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Jarhead:
Edward G. Robinson and the AZ state marching band were in the original Bus Stop
ProducerBadBob:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049038/
ProducerBadBob:
Don't see EGR in the credits
ProducerBadBob:
Might be thinking of Hans Conried?
ProducerBadBob:
Or Author O'Connel
Jarhead:
he played the Cowboy... uncredited
ProducerBadBob:
hmmm ok ...IMDB missed that one
Jarhead:
he was in Bus stop in 1956 and Some like it hot in 59... must have liked working with Marilyn
Jarhead:
he died young....wow...didn't know that
Jarhead:
is this for seniors too?
Jarhead:
I know...it depends right ?
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Sungold:
Who is the guest?
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Craig:
KICPAC is claiming that the signatures are meaningless.
RallySally:
165 years ago yesterday California became a state. At that time it was said "this state is too big, it should be 2 or 3 states."
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Jarhead:
California is making it easy for people to consider other options...either moving or separating...
jimmy:
Good morning KCNR
RallySally:
Yes, they give us new ammunition every day!
RallySally:
But the Gold Rush was happening and they were in a hurry to get Ca. in. "We'll take care of it later."
Jarhead:
convention of states is needed immediately
Craig:
Last time we had a constitutional convention, we wound up with a whole new goverment. Im not sure that is what we really want considering that socialists will no doubt want their say in what happens.
RallySally:
In 1860, the process to split the state began again, and the Civil War boke out.
RallySally:
Glenn.
RallySally:
Right on Craig. The state legislatures choose who will be the delegates. God help us here in California.
Craig:
A constitutional convention will result in the abolition of the Bill of Rights.
jimmy:
Carl, I have a question for your next guest if he is going to talk about immigration
jimmy:
Question is. Why doesnt any of the politicians , or public speakers that are against illegal immigration mention cesar Chavez?. He was a national hero with a holiday named after him and was against illegal immigration , to the point he set up a hotline to report them. NOONE talks about him
jimmy:
He knew they would drive the working wage down and emplyers would exploit them
Craig:
I have to go earn a living. Someone might ask Meckler how we dont wind up with a worse government than we already have. How does a states convention resist a complete rewrite of the existing constitution in the same way the Articles of Confederation was done away with?
Craig:
good bye all
jimmy:
Havea good one craig
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willir:
Craig has a point. The founding fathers channged the deal when they threw out the Articles of Confederation. That action led delagates to leave. Important that you ask mr. Meckler this.
willir:
Very Importantto ask.
Jarhead:
even more than rural vs.urban...just Govt trust issues
Carl:
Will ask that question.
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Jarhead:
No...it doesn't matter which side gets control....money is causing politicians to disregard their constituents needs
Joe:
It appears we currently need to restrain the Judicial branch, so they cannot 'create legislation' from the bench.
RallySally:
Term limits would go a long way toward getting the lobbyists out of the process.
willir:
The legislative body picks the delagates. Article 5 in the Constitution
Red:
The states decide on the delegates to go to the convention, correct?
Red:
Each state gets 1 vote
Joe:
yes there is a danger. The danger is that we are moving so slowly to deal with our problems that Iran may develop and use a nuclear device before we get our political structure fixed
willir:
Carl can you ask him how changing a perfectly good constitution makes sense when congress does't follow the one we have now?
Red:
Ask why, they would follow new Constitutional law, when they don't follow the Constitution now
willir:
yeah.
Red:
Lol
Red:
Maybe I missed it also...what amendments do they wish to propose?
willir:
Article 5 says nothing about the convention setting up its own rules. Where is he getting this stuff?
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willir:
Maybe someone should read Article 5.
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Apology for the audio quality. Cellphone.
willir:
I would but my cell has worse reception then his does.
willir:
Carl, Article 5 Clearly implies that Congress would not only call the conventionbut would STILL be in charge.
willir:
So where is he getting this stuff??????
Red:
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all inte
willir:
Kris anne Hall is the formost expert on the Constitution. 30 million followers on her radio program. She thinks that COS is Dangerous
RallySally:
The States have the power now to defy the Federal Government, and they don't use it. Tim Pappas said that the States have plenary power. The 10th Amendment should be used.
Red:
So we need the convention to fix a dead document...that is alive in a reinterpreted form, that violates the dead document...butit's ok...because they follow the reinterpretation?
willir:
Wow red you have a point
Red:
What?
Red:
You guys need to really look at the recent SCOTUS opinions, they're begging states to exercise sovereignty
willir:
Tim Pappas yeah that guy taught a constitution class. He thinks the COS is a Danger ...... See a pattern here....
ProducerBadBob:
Congressional Theme Song "Don't Stop Till You Get Enough...(everything)"
RallySally:
How long will all of this take?
Red:
Where does he get that from? It says that no where in IV
Red:
Ask where he gets that from about the application please
Red:
In *V
willir:
This is a spin when you say who endorses cos Mr. MEckler was against Cos in 2012! What changed his mind? ask him.
Red:
CA still only get one vote...
RallySally:
That is another reason why the time is right for the State of Jefferson. Why wouldn't they want another "red" state?
Red:
It's the delegates that concerns me
willir:
How do you see that CONGRESS is still in control!
Red:
Who do they send? Our Congressman and Senators?
RallySally:
How many years will this take? Do we have time for this?
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Red:
Only takes a couple to stop it...like it only took a couple delegates to stop the Iran deal...yeah that argument comforts me
willir:
Seems like the soj people are moving foward. A soverign state is the answer. With other states folling
willir:
following
willir:
Not true rules can be changed
willir:
It is called the Constitution
willir:
Didn,t get out of Committie
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Red:
Again....where does it say that is all that can be discussed?
Red:
Please ask
willir:
Red has a point please ask!
ProducerBadBob:
red we have 5 min can you call?
Carl:
Delegate question?
RallySally:
Our "good people" keep turning their backs on their constitutents.
willir:
Does this guy make $ off this?
ProducerBadBob:
Are you asking if he is drawing a salary and if so from whom?
willir:
Yeah.
jimmy:
Where does he get his funding for all this?
willir:
Who pays for all this???????
willir:
Ask Him PLEASE!
jimmy:
;)
ProducerBadBob:
volunteer donations apparently
willir:
REALLY????????