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ProducerBadBob:
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Jarhead:
why are they making it confidential ?
Jarhead:
they all ran on being more transparent, only when it suits them
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Ted:
Morning Jarhead-
Joe:
missed it, what are they making confidential?
Ted:
They want to be able to edit without public scrutiny
Jarhead:
Ted, if you are in the private sector and paying yourself your attitude toward getting what you can makes sense... but those are tax payer dollars...way overpaid...compared to CEO and other managers of comparison
Joe:
they want a study that supports a sales tax increase for law enforcement. The draft says they don't need more officers
Jarhead:
Morning Ted...
Jarhead:
waste of 80,000 dollars....
Jarhead:
Joe, exactly
Joe:
pay for a study, it does not support what their preconceived goals are, so get the study edited
Jarhead:
yep
Jarhead:
tax payer paid for it....we should get to see it unedited
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Dan:
If this community is paying for the consultants and the study, why would we not be able to see the outcome? Why would they keep it a secret? We can demand like the big dogs thruough a court action to see the results
Dan:
Here is where Record Searchlight can earn thier salt
Dan:
FOIA
Joe:
yeah right the RS making a stand for free flow of information from the City ?
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ProducerBadBob:
Hello Sunny
Dan:
This is outrageous
Sungold:
Good Morning. Anyone else having trouble loading the chat room?
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Joe:
yes Sungold, had to reload the page 3 times
Dan:
I did but it finally worked
Jarhead:
NFI...who is that ?
ProducerBadBob:
hmmmm update maybe it loaded OK here.
Sungold:
It is getting worse, I have had this trouble for many weeks now.
ProducerBadBob:
I will complain to the IT guy
Joe:
had to reload the page 3 times and chat is delayed (new posts take a while to show up)
drmaria:
Northern Firearm Instruction
ProducerBadBob:
emailing the webdude
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Sungold:
This City has to hire so many consultants, it is ridiculous, and simply a stall. We have well paid city staff, who knows our city the best
Dan:
So this Council has been so unaware, it took paying consultants to get them to listen to what the people have been saying for years
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Dan:
Now that they know, they are going to keep it a secret
Dan:
Merit pay? How did they measure the merit?
Dan:
How did middle management earn thier wage, what was the measurement....did they just think they earned it? or was it measured by results?
drmaria:
Good morning Molly and Ted!!
Ted:
where are you Dr?
Sungold:
City used to give a bonus for new ideas that prove to have merit. If you came up with a good idea, they would tell you that idea had already been thought of. But we never saw any of the ideas happen. Mine finally came to be, but I was told a council member had thought of it years ago
Sungold:
I argued that may be so, but I was the one who implemented it and made is successful. They never acknowledged that
drmaria:
RB
Jarhead:
Ted, what do you guys think of what Chico city council passed last night ...strong homeless laws...removing the 7 day posting etc...
Dan:
That is a start? but they have to measure the results and in any action they have to build in, how it can be measured if it is successful, part of that is public feedback but if not, feedback from who is directly impacted
Dan:
The City of Anderson has strict Homeless laws, not Redding
drmaria:
Facebook question: What is it going to take to get the city to listen to the community
Dan:
A Consultant!
Joe:
3 days of protests in the streets is what it seems to take elsewhere
Dan:
Is there video of the city Council meetings, maybe this community needs to see a clip of the councils shock .....
Dan:
Time to call the council out
Ted:
Well I feel they are stsrting to listen now
Sungold:
And then what? It will just be the same old thing all over again
Dan:
If that is true Ted, ehy are the results going to be kept secret?
Dan:
It is true, but Gary Cadd turned it down
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Jarhead:
thats my understanding as well
Jarhead:
and then being told to "move along" by the Mayor
Jarhead:
they are being told this by the city manager and city attorneys
Sungold:
What is irritating is the city council will not answer emails sent in a timely manner, written with respect, and signed with a areal name. Gary Cadd used to good about answering but no more
Jarhead:
600 per month
ProducerBadBob:
Good to see you DrM
Jarhead:
Brent calling for the report to be confidential is unacceptable... amazing...surprised they just didn't go to closed session and lie about it later
Sungold:
P;us the council members get medical, when most of them are already working and have medical
Sungold:
I do believe it is lifetime medical
Sungold:
At least it used to be years ago, I am not aware of any changes
ProducerBadBob:
according to Terry, it's a 50/50 which is still a pretty good chunk o change
ProducerBadBob:
full while serving...
Sungold:
The old group was very neat, they would go out on search and rescue when needed. Horses were boarded down at the posse grounds
ProducerBadBob:
My dad was a member for many years.
Sungold:
We had a family in our neighborhood who belonged and even their two teen daughters went out on search and rescue. Great group and so good for the older kids
Jarhead:
My Grandfather...back in the 50's or 60's
Sungold:
Bull riding is cruel to both man and beast. I cannot watch it anymore
Jarhead:
my kids always say yes to shooting...
Ted:
Yep--it's 100% yes on kids and shooting
drmaria:
Ted, I still have 2 red long marks on the tips of my pointer fingers...LOL
drmaria:
Good morning Sheriff!!
Sungold:
How does a busy sheriff have time to do Facebook?
drmaria:
It's great that he posts!!
Jarhead:
does Tom believe it should be confidential ?
drmaria:
I love learning who they have caught, staying up to date
Sungold:
That last add for Cicada Cantina reminded me we need to give them a try. We never went because the reviews were not very good. I hope the change is good for them and that they can make it successful
Sungold:
It is starting to rain here....hope we get some measurable rain today
Sungold:
Great music today BB, love it!
Ted:
He is talking about PC 626.9 for those who want to look it up
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