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Sungold:
Good Monday morning
Sungold:
What is up with Costco going out to Oasis, is that all over with? I hear rumors that they may go to Anderson
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Joe:
Need an update for all of our CCW Holders so they understand the new law signed by Gov Brown
Sungold:
Who is going to discuss that?
Jarhead:
Brown, what a dimwit....signed the exclusion of lead bullets eventhough he admitted it was not going to have the effect they were claimin...thedate was misleading
Jarhead:
and now signs a bill that would not prohibit any of the shootings in gun-free zones that they claim they are doing it for
Joe:
new law prohibits CCW within 1000 feet of the exterior boundry of a school, and prohibits posession of ammo within same zone (if I am reading it correctly)
Joe:
So while driving you may need to pull over and unload and lock up all over town
Carl:
Joe--no on that one. You don'yt have to do that.
Joe:
Carl, based on what?
Jarhead:
if you are passing thru and not stopping to pick up a kid or something... not going to be an issue
Carl:
What I read about the bill. It would be impossible to enfoerce.
Joe:
unlocked unloaded posession within 1,000 feet is a new crime. The exemption for CCW was eliminated
Carl:
enforce
Joe:
yes, difficult to enforce, and it permits selective enforcement.
Carl:
Jarhead--what did yuou read?
Joe:
this is why we need an expert to explain it to us Carl
Jarhead:
same Carl... 1000 feet only exemption is retired LE that are required to carry
ProducerBadBob:
Joe and Jarhead, I am not sure where you are getting your intel. This from Fox News:::: paste below:::
ProducerBadBob:
SB707 by Democratic Sen. Lois Wolk of Davis will prohibit people with concealed weapons permits from carrying firearms on school and college campuses. People who have concealed carry permits would be allowed to carry firearms within 1,000 feet of a public or private K-12 school, but not on the grou
ProducerBadBob:
People who have concealed carry permits would be allowed to carry firearms within 1,000 feet of a public or private K-12 school, but not on the grounds. Retired law enforcement officers who are authorized by their former agency to carry concealed weapons would be exempt. Police chiefs and school di
ProducerBadBob:
The story does not seem to support your contention as I read it.
ProducerBadBob:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/11/gov-jerry-brown-signs-bill-banning-concealed-guns-from-california-schools/
Jarhead:
Bob...thats what we are both saying... so we are getting our info from the same place....lol
Joe:
Bob, that does not match what was being discussed by the news I listened to in the bay area this weekend
Joe:
(forgive my sin, KCNR is not possible on the road in Sacramento)
Jarhead:
Joe...that is exactly how it is written...I have been following this bill for a while... and like Carl, I teach CCW classes
Sungold:
Where do you teach classes and are they during the day?
ProducerBadBob:
All of these laws tend to ignore the fact that bad people by definition don't ... follow...the law.
Carl:
SB707 by Democratic Sen. Lois Wolk of Davis will prohibit people with concealed weapons permits from carrying firearms on school and college campuses.
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Carl:
People who have concealed carry permits would be allowed to carry firearms within 1,000 feet of a public or private K-12 school, but not on the grounds.
ProducerBadBob:
I don't think the nutjob in Oregon HAD a CCW, but I don't have first hand knowledge...silly law.
jimmy:
1000 feet is a pretty long shot to defend someone
jimmy:
The Hollies
jimmy:
Did Brown sign this bill after the UCC shooting?
Joe:
yes, signed this past sat
jimmy:
wow
Jarhead:
"nut job" in Oregon did not have a CCW and was mentally ill after being discharged from Army bootcamp where he attempted suicide 3 weeks into his training
jimmy:
i was just mentioning the other day that people do not hear about the armed security officer that stopped a shooting at Sullivan High school in Tenn.
jimmy:
interesting Jarhead
jimmy:
and it was not discovered during the backround check
Carl:
He was able to buy numerous firearms
Carl:
This needs to be addressed. How do we keep crazies from obtaining guns?
Carl:
Without liomiting those who do not have these problems
Jarhead:
lets see what the first lawsuit looks like when someones child is harmed or killed when they could have been saved had theteacher or parent at school been able to carry with a CCW... the childs protection is now strictly on the shoulders of the school and the state...full accountability
Joe:
how do we stop crazies from hurting people, regardless of the weapon they choose?
jimmy:
Being ignorant of military protocal ,doesn
jimmy:
t a backround check sift out something like that, someone who is suicidal that is?
Jarhead:
Jimmy, you would think but they are too busy passing restrictive bills instead of addressing helpful issues like mental health
jimmy:
Sad but true
Joe:
this new gun law is another 'feel good' law that does not solve the actual problem
jimmy:
It is like a "Pin the tail on the donkey" approach. Let's try this. OOHP that didn't work let's try this.
Joe:
let's make sure the criminals are safer by ensuring there is no defense present at schools
Joe:
bad decision
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Carl:
It is a bad decision but not a surprise in this state.
Sungold:
Jarhead, where do you teach CCW and are there daytime classes
Sungold:
They keep making laws and tossing them out...many are redundant and the rest cannot be enforced anyway
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Sungold:
Civic is getting better all the time.
Joe:
Sungold: I'd like to see more tossed out, lots more please
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jimmy:
Please tell me The ACLU doesn't support nambla
Joe:
Carol, what's with the occaisional delivery of a weekly advertising paper? I know you used to do it weekly, then none for a long time, then I got 3 over 3 weeks, now nothing again
ProducerBadBob:
Not per se. However there was a case in which a law invoked to shut down a website was misapplied. ACLU
ProducerBadBob:
The contention was that the end did justify the means because it would have consequences on many forms of free speech.
jimmy:
that sounds like support to me . ick
ProducerBadBob:
the argument was that the same tactic could be employed on any site that offended anyone anywhere.
jimmy:
sounds great in theory, but on a subject that is illegal?
Jarhead:
what does this guy stand for ? how does he align with our community...have him tell us his position on top issues...
jimmy:
I know what you mean Bob, I just have a hard time understanding why anyone would defend something like that in anyway
ProducerBadBob:
it was the process that was challenged, not the intended result.
ProducerBadBob:
a 12 gauge shotgun will kill a rat, but it's rather hard on the furniture.
jimmy:
right
Jarhead:
but sometimes getting rid of something in the most efficient way doesn't always send the most powerful message...ask ISIS...lol
Jarhead:
weak
Jarhead:
I like objective but don't beleive people are neutral on most issues just unwilling to be forthright because they do not want to be confrontational and lose readers or listeners
Jarhead:
there are many people in our community and others that are apathetic but well read columnists and editorial writers are normally not in that group
jimmy:
So what she is sayintg is that the record searchlight has people in another state deciding content?
jimmy:
or did i hear her wrong?
Jarhead:
makes you wonder how much autonomy our paper has
jimmy:
got it
Jarhead:
what part of Texas...lol
Jarhead:
eventhough we bombed the 'doctors without borders' camp they ran a story about how the russian missles hit a field with cows
Jarhead:
attempting to get PETA all fired up ? or piss off the beef industry? or just make a billion people in India turn against Russia..lol
jimmy:
I think you got 2 out of 3 correct Jarhead. ;)
Jarhead:
lol
Joe:
if I want to know what is going on in this city I lisiten to Carl and Linda on KCNR
jimmy:
yup
Carl:
Thank you Joe--nice comment
Jarhead:
where do the ideas come from for the editorials
jimmy:
United pres maybe?
jimmy:
*Press
Jarhead:
new gun control laws emplies that local law enforcement and school admin can dictate their own policy...should the state law being implmented in our county or city ?
jimmy:
everyone is talking about hilary's email , remember how fond obama was of his blackberry? i wonder if he ever put classified info on that?
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Jarhead:
no mental health facilities but we send billions to Syria and other countries that hate us
jimmy:
We are to busy giving illegals benifits and free cell phones out to everyone. How can we fund mental health?
jimmy:
and that too Jarhead
Jarhead:
totally agree Jimmy
Jarhead:
lets vote to make it confidential
Jarhead:
and then wonder why people don't trust us
jimmy:
see'ya later folks. will be listening in the car
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