SYSTEM:
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Carl:
Good morning
Carl:
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Carl:
Ooops
SYSTEM:
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SYSTEM:
Please welcome Sungold who just joined the chat.
Jarhead:
if you win....Ted and I are moving in....lol
Sungold:
Good Morning Carl, Trish, BB and everyone
Sungold:
Three people will share the loot, even with three, they are all very wealthy
Jarhead:
supreme court huge case....may change the power in California
SYSTEM:
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Jarhead:
Bob ! Trish is blowing my speakers...turn her down or maybe a muscle relaxer...lol
Carl:
Trish?
drmaria:
Jarhead can't handle the passion!!!
ProducerBadBob:
I kinda have to chase her, level wise.
Jarhead:
lol
drmaria:
Tell Trish 13 Hoours starts at 7P Friday night, Anderson
drmaria:
It's because Rubio can debate Hiliary and win!!
Jarhead:
appreciate the passion Doc... but typically don't respond well to be yelled at...it may be a loud noise issue from my past or maybe boot camp scars...lol
drmaria:
^^whatever you want to call it...
Jarhead:
Rubio doesn't have the balls to build a wall... until he does he won;t gain enough
drmaria:
^^^True - LaMalfa said that Rubio is his race horse because he would be able to handle Hilary in Debate and can think on his feet in debate
drmaria:
Yes - they released the times at the end of day yesterday
drmaria:
Carl!!!!!
ProducerBadBob:
Fandango shows times at Cinemark and Anderson.
Jarhead:
I Can't Hear you !!!!
Jarhead:
hear comes the rain....da da duh da da..hear come the rain... and I say alright...thats a song we haven't heard in a while
drmaria:
Bad Bod - yeah online they times show up for Cinemark 14, does not show up for Anderson
drmaria:
The owner of Movies 11 Anderson told us they would be released yesterday :( I really wanted to support Anderson
Jarhead:
it will change the money that goes into politics... immediately..the unions will begin to support the idea of getting rid of campaign contributions
Jarhead:
this case is about Govt employees but the next step will be all unions
ProducerBadBob:
I was just looking at Fandango...you can't buy tickets, but the times are listed.
drmaria:
^^Ok - Let me call Paramount and take care of some business on that!! LOL
Sungold:
My only experience with unions was with City of Redding. The unions were not favorable towards the city volunteers, which used to cause issues for many of us
drmaria:
^^my new experience with unions is Dignity Health changing the Health Insurance on my patients and giving them less
drmaria:
^^To me that means the "Unions" didn't fight hard enough for them!!
Sungold:
Did that start with Obama care?
Sungold:
I;ve heard many people say that when they had to go with Obama care they lost a lot, yet had to pay out more money. That is not right
drmaria:
Sun - yes a lot of things started several years ago in Healthcare, preparing for Obamacare - this is specific to this hospital and their unions
Jarhead:
but they have never supported any of the Veteran events that we have talked to them about...Oldwest does though
SYSTEM:
Please welcome Angel who just joined the chat.
drmaria:
Angel!!!!!! Hello!
Sungold:
Hi Ruth
Angel:
Good Morning
Angel:
Hi Dr Maria!
Sungold:
Are you in Redding?
drmaria:
Pineta.......ugh!!!
Angel:
Yes, got back before the storms
Angel:
Did the Bundy's give up in Oregon yet?
drmaria:
Amb. Chris Stevens and Sean Smith
Angel:
So sad, and i don't think people will let Clinton get away with it
drmaria:
Angel - I hope that is true!!
drmaria:
I am sure they are watching the response of people supporting the movie, book, the boy - and are scared!!
Jarhead:
many rumors from multiple sources are discussing the charges may be inevitable against Hillmonster
Angel:
I think her mingling her position with her foundation will do her in
drmaria:
*the boys
drmaria:
She's done!!
Angel:
I think so, doubt Comey will let it go!
Jarhead:
I agree Angel...a lot of people talking about the foundation now
Angel:
Thank goodness
drmaria:
I hope Comey -can grow some!!
Angel:
Thank goodness Comey can't be bought
Jarhead:
they dismissed the CIA director for less
Angel:
I bet Biden gets in it
drmaria:
^^yes
Angel:
Heard yesterday MoonBeam is also thinking about it
drmaria:
Yes on dismissing Comey possiblities
Jarhead:
he already set it up....saying that he regrets not getting in...
Angel:
Obama wants Biden for sure
drmaria:
No love for MoonBeam
Angel:
MoonBeam, Sanders ...we would be in trouble
drmaria:
He not well known around the country - it's late for him
Jarhead:
may Moonbeam and LT.Gov Nuisance could run as a ticket and we could get rid of both of them at one time
drmaria:
Angel - don't say it out loud
drmaria:
Gavin wears skinny jeans
Angel:
When they proposed the Fire Fee years ago, I said on our show, you watch it will be the avenue for a Fee for Cal Trans, Fee for CHP, etc.......Brown is proposing a $65 per car fee to fix the roads
Jarhead:
and most other states despise California and especially its politicians...Moonbeam would have a difficult time
Angel:
OMG Dr Maria, skinny jeans ...bet they have bling on the butt!
Angel:
You are right Jarhead
Jarhead:
gavin is a metro
Carl:
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Sungold:
There is never enough money for roads. I had a street worker tell me one time, Redding will never catch up with the city street work that needs to be done. The same probably applies to the state, as well
Jarhead:
bling on the butt...lol
Angel:
Having a strike Carl?
Angel:
Eye catcher jarhead
drmaria:
Ewwww!! Angel I can't stand when guys wear jeans from Buckle....it's so....I won't say it
ProducerBadBob:
There is not cat in the control room contrary to indications.
Carl:
I laid my book on the keyboard and made up my own language for a second. Sorry
ProducerBadBob:
a cat
Angel:
That is funny
drmaria:
It's the epitomy of "PeaCocking"
Jarhead:
we were even told locally that we did not have the budget to fix our sprinklers and pipes that were wasting water but did spend thousands on a water patrol to write tickets to the citizens...
Sungold:
My kitty used to jump in my lap and hit the keys now and then
Angel:
There is no money because Cal Trans is mis-managed
Angel:
Cal Trans gets more money for it's roads than any other state
drmaria:
I had so much FUN with Trish last weekend at Rotary Crab feed...!!!!
Jarhead:
too much money going to people that don't pay in and pensions that are out of control
Sungold:
Yes, when they could have used volunteers to monitor that. They would have the money if they did proper maintenance and not wait until the whole system is a mess
Angel:
How did you get crab? I thought it was pretty much contaminated
Jarhead:
it was...but it tasted good
Jarhead:
lol
drmaria:
No one cared!!
Angel:
I could go on and on with Cal trans, starting with the Bay Bridge and the fraud
Sungold:
Crab is coming in from Ore and WA. R & R said is is OK
SYSTEM:
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drmaria:
just did crab with tequila chaser and good to go!!
Angel:
Oh good, ahhh tequila chaser
Jarhead:
people kept stealing from my cracked pile...should be a security patrol that keeps people focused on their own plates for next year...lol
Sungold:
Pacific Seafood was able to take care of their customers who do huge fundraisers
Angel:
I think the last time I did something like that I was 20
Angel:
Now it has to have a margarita aroung it
Angel:
around
Jarhead:
someone at our table won the large bottle of Fireball....that got the party started
drmaria:
Angel - don't worry, I am a cheap date...I just don't like the sugar so I stick to shots
ProducerBadBob:
Pacific has a nice processing plant up in Charleston, OR near Coos Bay.
Angel:
Good to know Sun, we have been staying away
Angel:
They are Redding folks to right?
drmaria:
Yeah-it was bad Saturday night - I did yager, fireball, beer...
Angel:
Oh my gosh, i have never had fireball, but all the kids are drinking it
Sungold:
Pacific Seafood is the company that does the huge fish sale for Kent's Meats in the spring every year
Angel:
I don't drink beer either but have used it to BBQ chicken
Sungold:
I think those trucks come up from San Francisco area
Angel:
I thought one of the owners was from Redding maybe not
Jarhead:
just take it to Washington and move past these punks in Sac...
Angel:
If SOJ is denied will the goal be to change how Northern Ca is represented
Jarhead:
so when can we make I-5 a toll road ? lol
RallySally:
How do we do that Angel?
Angel:
I know lots of Democrates in this state who think SOJ is a joke, more importantly they are from Sac and LA
Jarhead:
and many from redding
Angel:
They are the people who have to be won over
Jarhead:
who just don't want the rules of the game to change
RallySally:
And they are going to listen to us because.....
Angel:
I was just talking to a friend in Idaho who supports SOJ, I said that's is the problem, people in conservative states are all over this, not the people in Ca
Jarhead:
they will not be won over...they are in control of the current game we are forced to play...why would they consider changing or even allow the conversation to be considered ? if this were to go thru...the risk losing everything
Angel:
It is the voters in this state who will ultimately decide and if the majority of folks in southern counties have no interest it won't happen
RallySally:
That's becuase the people in Sac and LA have all the power and representation. Why should they care?
Angel:
Orange County is conservative
SYSTEM:
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Jarhead:
Washington has a lot to gain if this goes thru....conservatives would have a share of the 55 electoral votes and an anchor(potentially) on the west coast
Angel:
It is too bad but the only way they can succeed is if they can get support
RallySally:
I think that people also are fair minded. They see our plight up here and see us as the underdogs.
Jarhead:
it can be done thru Washington without the state support
Angel:
Draper had a winning strategy, get all the counties onboard and show them the benefit
RallySally:
Actually, no. The state legis;lature needs to agree with a 50 + 1 % vote.
RallySally:
Draper would have had to do what we are doing anyway, because that is what the Constitution outlines as a process.
Angel:
I agree but he had a lot of support from some of the southern counties
Angel:
What about California's debt?
Jarhead:
Sally but it doesn't take a popular vote to pass... thats what I understood
RallySally:
Without the overturning of Reynolds v Sims, the Representation would still be unConstitutional.
Angel:
They will if they don't get their retirement
RallySally:
That's right, Jarhead.
Gref:
It'd be nice to start over. Tired of the taxes being added to everything so they can give freebies to illegals while we pay for it. Would be nice to see our gas prices as low as other states.
Jarhead:
Gref... agree...
RallySally:
We could elect our own Governor, and Senators too.
Angel:
Cal Pers is Cal Pers and in ordr to collect it you have to work in California
Jarhead:
Angel, I have clients that do not work in Cal and they collect their pension... they live in Oregon now..
Angel:
If the state seperates the employees will get the option to leave their money in Cal Pers until they retire but they will not be able to be collect it or work in SOJ with the benefit
Angel:
I am talking about those working not those retired
RallySally:
Ask the question to Mark, Angel.
Angel:
I know people still working and they have addressed the issue with Cal Pers, if there is a split, they will not be able to work under that retrirement program
Jarhead:
gotcha... so the SOJ state employee would not be paying any longer into CalPers...they would be contributing(maybe) into a new pension and would still remain vested in the Cal Pers program
Angel:
They have to quit Cal Pers and join the new retirement system in SOJ
Angel:
Exactly
Angel:
They are not State
Angel:
There ya go!
Jarhead:
if thats how the new system would be set up....I'm sure calpers or a subsidiary would be bidding on being the provider in SOJ state employees
Sungold:
Got to go, see you later
Angel:
They cannot and will not
Angel:
Bye Sun
drmaria:
have a good day Sun
Gref:
Perhaps foster an agreement with callers to continue with those who are currently working? Then any new employees won't get callers but soj.
Angel:
SOJ will have to come up with a retirement, if they choose but Cal Pers is California, keep it or leave it
Angel:
Can do it, written in the charter
Angel:
Have to be employed in California
Jarhead:
Gref... but continuing to be a part of the CalPers program would continue to expose us to the issues that they have been working around and not confronting for years.. the city has approx 300 million in unfunded pension plans and most of that could be based on the ignorant projections of actuarial s
Angel:
I applaud SOJ and hope it gets the attention it deserves, the problem is in the details, Cal Pers is but one, the other is California's debt
Angel:
Cal Stirs and all the other county retirements that are not Cal Pers have the same charter so it is not just Cal Pers
Gref:
Copy that. I was unaware.
Jarhead:
Angel...thats why i said a possible subsidiary... they won;'t pass up the possible new state for them to act as provider...its their business and how they became so powerful in govt...
Angel:
They are all politically wired and I doubt you will see any legislator get onboard
Angel:
They can't, they are trustees
Jarhead:
agree Angel... calpers is doing everything they can to crush this..
Angel:
CAl Stirs
Jarhead:
calsters ?
Angel:
CAlStrs
Angel:
I think it is CalSTRS
Gref:
AND they continue to load debt. Latest from moonbeam and the minions us adding another gas tax. Stated that California taxpayers ate more than willing. I guess they didn't ask me.
Angel:
They are adding a per car tax
Angel:
$65 per car
Gref:
Sorry about the typos, big fingers little keys.
Angel:
me too
Gref:
As soon as the majority of democracy minions came in, they added gas taxes. Now they want more.
Angel:
Have to run, get out before the rain!
Jarhead:
have a great day Angel
Angel:
Thanks you, you too
Gref:
Bye Angel
drmaria:
And - (they) are the 1st ones...that Don't want Growth...
ProducerBadBob:
I would suggest that if a deal to include the tribal interests in a balanced manner, that could really bring a LOT of financial meat to the table. Just a thought. The tribes wield a LOT of influence and potential votes.
ProducerBadBob:
Sure as hell don't want them AGAINST the idea
RallySally:
The tribes are already Sovereign States.
Jarhead:
are biggest problem if they vote to allow this....will be the immediate growth in the projected new state....every billionaire will want to own part of the new state... as will corporation that want to have a say in how the new state constitution will be written...there will be thousands of new face
Jarhead:
our
ProducerBadBob:
YES but they can be allies and part of the mix...just saying might be an error to simply pretend they don't exist, but what do I know?
ProducerBadBob:
Had to slip some Daft Punk in this morning.
Jarhead:
face moving in wanting to help develop the new state constitution could be a big problem if we are not prepared
Jarhead:
lol
RallySally:
The counties (people) will choose the delegates to the constitutional convention.
Jarhead:
Bob...totally agree... but lots of people knock on your door...sometimes its hard to know which you should allow to come in...an answer that sometimes does not make itself obvious until later...lol
RallySally:
The citizens of the county will know who is who. And there will be a vetting process.
drmaria:
Thank you Carl for promoting this!!
Gref:
Have to make sure the delegates represent everyone and not just 1 sector as some local self appointed "leaders" do,.
Jarhead:
take the money out of politics and make them live on their salary like everyone else... and most of our problems will move to being solved
RallySally:
There will be more than 1 delegate per county.
Gref:
Agreed! Take away their state vehicles and reimburse them the mileage when they use their vehickes.
Gref:
Rally, I'm sure there will be. As long as it's not 2 of the same mindset.
SYSTEM:
Please welcome cherrillclifford who just joined the chat.
cherrillclifford:
Any mention of God in the Constitutuion?
Gref:
If we send a veteran, let's send am NCO female.
RallySally:
Yes, in the Preamble.
Jarhead:
Gref... .NCO yes...but not limit it by sex...
RallySally:
God, is also mentioned in the California Constitution, for what is worth.
cherrillclifford:
I'm aware of what the CA constitution says re God. But, it would be a terrible beginning to leave it out in Jefferson. God's blessings will not be on Jefferson if this is neglected.
RallySally:
Mark has already written a rough draft of the Constitution which includes God.
RallySally:
The Preamble I mean.
cherrillclifford:
@ Cor 3:17 ...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is Liberty" Where the Lord if not there is no liberty
RallySally:
Couldn't agree more, Cherrill