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Joe: California has a spending problem, not an income problem. Figure out how to get it done with the income you have, just like normal people have to.

guest: because they need most of the money of the tax increase for the unfunded pensions they keep making worse by giving raises...2.5% for management recently... 300 million in unfunded pensions and they give raises that just makes it worse

ProducerBadBob: that is so contrary to the mindset

Dan: When are you going to have Trump on the show?

Joe: I just saw a message that CCW appointments are not available until the 2nd week of March because the Sheriffs office only does them 2 partial days per week, then the issuance is another 60-90 days after that

guest: Joe, thats partly do to the numbers of people applying

Joe: partly due to the agency choosing to limit services to the people

Dan: A volunteer could do the job

guest: I agree...Tom may be open to hearing how that would work

Joe: post interview another 60-90 days is crazy, just to write the recommendation and process the background check?

Dan: Volunteers for the process and sworn to do the approval

guest: its the background check which the sheriffs have no control over

Joe: Dont forget, CCW application is not free to the applicant, the Sheriffs office charges money to cover their costs. Thus this does not cost the office money.

Joe: Background checks in other states take 15 minutes normally and problem ones take 3 days. Not 90 days

guest: but do we really want the cost to increase ?

guest: our DOJ for the state has much to do with our speed, I'm sure

Joe: how would cost increase when the applicant is already paying 100% of the cost?

Dan: A volunteer can do a records check, they are done by records clerks

Joe: "Our speed"? You are with the Sheriffs office?

guest: if we hire more people and the cost needs to be covered...increase in cost

ProducerBadBob: I think that was reference to the county as an entity joe

guest: it was Bob

Joe: budget logic fail guest: if I pay all the costs currently, and you cannot handle the load, thus hire one more person, who process the same number of applications per day, then the cost to the applicant would be unchanged.

Joe: unlesss for some reason the new person needs double the rate of compensation?

guest: if I increase my overhead...I need a way to pay for it Joe...I understand your reasoning but that would not be the way they look at it...

Dan: You hire one person, nothing changes, hire two nothing changes.

Dan: The problem is saying, we need more people but when they get them h, have you seen changes?

guest: that may make sense to us but we are assuming the current revenue pays in full the cost...I'm not convinced that is the case but I can comfortably say that I would expect them to raise the cost if they hire to cover the flow....what if the flow slows down...do they just lay the extra guy off ?

Joe: if they believe the load is temporary, then make a temporary hire

guest: one of the last classes I did had over 39 shooters and classes are filling almost immediately.. mot slowing for a while

guest: not

Joe: More gun control laws being proposed, more reporting on redding crime = more demand

Dan: Since CCC's are so popular, raise the cost and treat it like a business do more earn more, simple

Joe: Dan, Govt is not a profit center....

Sungold: Good thing to look for when hiring a limo...those extra doors.

Dan: Government can be efficient, there is no cap on cost , if the demand is there take advantage of it

guest: the process for hiring either a new deputy or admin personnel is not very easy... I'm sure the budget process must have changes to it and projections for the next few years studied by the county actuarials.. then supervisors and Larry Lees are involved with the approval

guest: right or wrong... its what we need to overcome as county residents

guest: maybe Carl can talk to him on the air...put the pressure on...lol

Dan: Think about it, 2 days a week for CCW, finger prints done by civilians, permit info processed by civilian, approval, sworn.

Joe: The interview should be the longest part of this process, two days a week seems inadequate

Dan: We may need a Administrator if the people in the County are not being served

Sungold: And that is only one story..imagine how many more there are out there like that. Our tax dollars are used for stuff we cannot even imagine

Dan: No jail beds, No Cops, No means to process CCW's, it might be time for a new administrator

Sungold: When I traveled for RPD back in the day, they were so fussy with how you spent your allotted money, it almost made travel miserable. Restaurants hate to give checks for 8 people at a table for instance. Yet, we City workers needed our own receipts for everything.

Sungold: The City Treasurer at that time was a bear!

Dan: Do you have a special license?

guest: Carl, how much did the billionaire tip him ?

ProducerBadBob: Limo Drivers have a special Chauffeur License, yes. They have a TCP number.

Sungold: Ha, limo takes millionaires out to Stillwater, and they see cows!

Dan: I worry about my kids in a limo , like who is driving, what is there background

ProducerBadBob: The letters TCP stand for Transportation - Charter Party. They are issued by the California Public Utilities Commission to companies that successfully meet the criteria for insurance, drug testing policies and a number of others.

ProducerBadBob: There you go, Dan.

Sungold: Anyone who deals with children is supposed to have a background check

Dan: Backgrounds on them?

ProducerBadBob: You can check to see their certification is valid

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Sungold: That can be a fun job to have, but I bet he gets a lot of bad ones too.

Sungold: My husband used to charter plans for his clients, and general public. Some of those flights were awful for him

Sungold: planes

Joe: industries like charter planes and limos is a tough business for those who have to interact with the customers. Not an easy job.

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ProducerBadBob: testing testing testing

ProducerBadBob: sungold are you seeing that?

Joe: I see bob test

ProducerBadBob: thanks joe

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Joe: no. audio is fine one

Guest: Bad Bob....can you type in everything being said so we can follow...ask them to talk slowly...lol

Joe: 2nd try: Audio is fine on IE

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Guest: active shooter being reported at Naval med center San Diego

Guest: but san diego police are saying no officers have been sent to the scene...

Guest: doesn't make sense even if its a hoax

Joe: if it's on a military base, the civilian police don't necessarily respond

Guest: have the dates...will be announced this week

Guest: VA clinic police had some issue with a local reporter...more to come...