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Carl: Good Morning. Happy President's day

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Angel: Good morning

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Sungold: Good Morning

Sungold: I heard that Hillary said, "Obama would be great on the supreme court". Heaven help us!

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Angel: Good Morning Sun

Jerry: News said he was in ROBUST health, he was away from home, no autopsy.

Sungold: I thought right away even before the stories came out, just a gut feeling.

Angel: Someone asked her if she would appoint Obama

Jerry: If that was my dad, there would certainly have been an autopsy.

Angel: My guess he would nominate Holder

Sungold: If he was my husband there would have been an autopsy.

Jerry: Are you guys that trusting??? Really. Don't be gullible. This president has no morals.

Sungold: Neither does Hillary

Jerry: Way too many critical decisions coming up. This is 100% obvious to me.

Angel: I am not so sure, if yo have even seen one, you wouldn't want it done to a family member. I am guessing he had a medical condition and the doctor signed off on it

Sungold: Scalia was great, he believed in the constitution

Jerry: The nation knows how many people disappeared, turned up dead somehow that helped out the Clintons. Think about this guys.

Jerry: Obama is a desperate anti-American searching for a legacy. To change our Supreme Court would be perfect for him.

Sungold: I would not want my loved one being murdered either and getting away with it.

ProducerBadBob: If things have gotten THAT bad...that justices can be murdered...it's pretty much all over...

Jerry: I KNOW they got away with murder. The doctor pronounced him OVER THE PHONE.

ProducerBadBob: If it's that bad...many people will due bad deaths...period.

Sungold: I think it is already worse than we think BB

Jerry: Yes, Bob.......our nation is in shambles. Our nation of trusting, hard working people are being guided over a cliff.

Angel: LOL, dead is dead, I could do it over the phone

Jerry: Not MY dad you wouldn't.

ProducerBadBob: Well the good news is thanks to chemtrails we will all be zombies in a few years and won't care.

Sungold: Is that even leagal, to pronounce over the phone?

ProducerBadBob: :P

Angel: I don't believe he was pronounced dead over the phone, just sayin

Jerry: Just ask yourself, if this was your dad would you be so glib?

Sungold: Whose glib?

Jerry: Angel - I just heard it on ABC. I don't trust ABC, but .......

Jerry: ABC said he was prounced dead over the phone.

Angel: I am not being glib but, if my Dad had heart disease or some other issue and the family knew it, I think I would be ok

Sungold: Can't believe the drive by media, they don't even drive by anymore just say the first thing they hear, right or wrong

Angel: I agree Sun

Jerry: I'm just saying I would not ASSUME it was a heart attack without a simple autopsy to verify.

Sungold: I did not hear heart attack, heard "natural causes"

Angel: My guess is there were people who loved him dearly with him and he died in the nigh and they found him

Jerry: Autopsies are performed every day - and I thought it was pretty much required unless the person was being treated for a specific disease.

Angel: You can't bring them back and I am sure they were respectful

Jerry: If he had died at home - - no question. But he was away from home in a room by himself.

Angel: Unless a doctor signs off on them

Angel: Which is probably what happened in this case

Jerry: Just remember - its trusting, honest people who don't think ugly things would ever happen that are led off to the train to remove jewelry and clothes. They did. And we are acting the same way.

Sungold: When I first heard he had died, I had a gut feeling he was murdered. That was before I heard anything else.

Angel: I frankly don't see a reason to go down the conspiracy road, I think we need to honor this man

Jerry: How do you separate out conspiracy from simply wanting to verify what you're told?

Angel: If you live a robust life, and he did, it is not beyond the rehlm of natural causes

Sungold: I always respected him, and liked what he did. He can still be honored by those who loved, worked and lived with him

Angel: relm

Jerry: I simply want to know the truth, and I don't take news reports on ABC, CBS and NBC to be the truth. Do you?

Angel: I don't

Angel: The coroners report will be public soon

ProducerBadBob: Jerry with respect, concluding that every thing is being orchestrated by Doctor Evil and Friends ferments a atmosphere of fear and distrust. It's really hard to prove a negative.

Sungold: I sure don;t.......hard to know what really happens unless you are on location of the event

Jerry: I believe there is a very strong possibility that Obama/Clintons pulled off yet another "removal" of an American.

Jerry: You can't assume that it was natural either. Just think if it was YOUR dad.

Angel: I agree, I think the scene, how he was feeling prior all contribute to the decision

Angel: I know the problems my Dad has and like I said, I would not want an autopsy

Jerry: But your Mom was there - - Carl. I'd trust that too. I'm not excited here, not a conspiracy theorist. Just don't trust what you're hearing so quickly, without any question.

Angel: Right to work

Sungold: In case you do not already know this, there are even folks in Redding which one can hire to do dirty deeds!.

Angel: if it is 4 to 4 it goes to the lower court decision

Jerry: The Supreme Court has incredible cases coming up. This is Obama's big chance to form our Supreme Court for years to come. And we take "natural causes" so easily???

ProducerBadBob: The following has been a guiding principal in my analysis of the world around me:

ProducerBadBob: Occam's razor (or Ockham's razor) is a principle from philosophy. Suppose there exist two explanations for an occurrence. In this case the simpler one is usually better. Another way of saying it is that the more assumptions you have to make, the more unlikely an explanation is. Occam's razor applies

ProducerBadBob: especially in the philosophy of science, but also more generally.

Angel: I did hear last night that the Justices did make some decisions but had not yet formally put them out

ProducerBadBob: Since they were not formally released his opinions are nullified.

Jerry: I believe you guys are way too trusting in the face of strong evil Obama people.

Sungold: 2nd amendment is a biggie. This was discussed on the Tom Gresham show last night,

Angel: Yes, they didn't identify what they were for privacy

Jerry: The reports are that he was in "robust health"......he was alone in a room.

ProducerBadBob: Do I trust? NO. Do I TRY to rely on observation and logic versus paranoia? Yes.

Jerry: I'm not paranoid. For hell's sake, all I'm saying is why not an autopsy?

ProducerBadBob: You would have to take that up with the family who may have personal grief to deal with in the face of all this.

Jerry: I have more important things to do than listen to such gullible sheep this morning.

Sungold: 2nd amendment is the biggie. This was discussed on the Tom Gresham show last night

Angel: I agree Bad Bob

ProducerBadBob: Have A Nice Day.

SYSTEM: Please welcome ljs who just joined the chat.

ljs: Bill Clinton current lady is known as the "Energizer" by the Secret Service

Angel: I heard that, how is he keeping her hidden?

ljs: I don't think that he is keeping her hidden, the news media does that for him. However, I have not seen her.

ProducerBadBob: Gee..uhm...angel...have I given the impression of gullibility or sheep-ness?

Angel: ? I am not sure what your saying I agree with you

ljs: Whatever, I think that it is a cute code name.

Angel: I didn't call you a sheep ....Jerry did

Angel: I think he thinks I am a sheep though ...

Angel: I just believe the family should decide and they did

ProducerBadBob: Yeah that was rehetorical and somewhat snarky on my part, Angel :D

ProducerBadBob: My Computer Needs A Sarcasm Font...

ProducerBadBob: Guess we are in good company you and I

Angel: LOL, mine too

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ProducerBadBob: Like I said, I don't consider myself a pollyanna...but I also don't look over my shoulder for the black helicopters sending microwaves into my brain...

Angel: I agree

Sungold: 45 minutes ago USA news announced it was a confirmed heart attack. How would they know that for sure?

ljs: They definitely should do an autopsy, rumor is that he turned down secret service for his trip

Angel: I am guessing Sun he has been seeing a doctor, they said he wasn't feeling well but went anyway ....to his determent

ProducerBadBob: You can tell with a blood test, there are markers that indicate a coronary event leading to death.

Angel: He went hunting, I can tell you when my Dad has his heart attack, he had symptoms prior

Angel: Luckily my Dad survived

Sungold: Thanks BB

Sungold: Need to get going, will be listening

Angel: I have to get moving too, love this weather

Angel: Have a great Day

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ljs: I have to say that I have given up watching the debates, they all are beginning to look clownish.

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CoachBob: Flipboard is wonderful

CoachBob: SF Zoo got rid of all their elephants as they felt the pods required hundreds of acres to feel "normal". I'd say the Tehama reserve has plenty for roaming

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Shastaminded: Pendleton said that housing them first, then working with them cost only $12,000 per year. The cost of not housing them was a whole lot more. As a practical matter, it makes sense. If Utah, one of the most conservative states in the nation, can do it I think Shasta County/Redding should take a ser

Shastaminded: He also mentioned that changing our attitudes towards the homeless was key to success.

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Shastaminded: http://www.housethehomeless.org/dollars-and-sense-in-salt-lake-city/

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Dave: Housing first should be tried in one of the wealthy bay area counties. The risks of being an early adopter by Shasta being the California pilot are too much. It could be another stillwater.

Dave: The democrats in Sacramento will bail out the democrat counties which adopt it if it fails. Sac would never bail out Shasta.

Shastaminded: The Utah people took a practical approach. They admit you can't save them all but you can manage them, and the cost of their care, by thinking about this differently.

Shastaminded: You can shoot the idea down right away if you want nothing to change.

Dave: Shasta county is not utah. These tenants would turn them into honey oil labs. When two tenants have a fight and one burns down the comple

Shastaminded: Oh I see. If the homeless are not Mormons then we can't possibly do anything like it?

Shastaminded: I don't accept that we can't try it here just because we are not Utah.