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Carl:
Good morning
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Joe:
On the heels of a report showing that Redding has the 7th highest paid police dept in the state, the City gives 2 raises to the highly paid police dept
Carl's-conscience:
Central State Pension Plan is getting approval to cut the payout of 'current' and future retirees.... could this happen to calpers ? the new law passed in 2014 allows adjustments if it will help sustain the pension further.... local public employees should pay attention
Carl's-conscience:
Central State Pension Plan is one of the largest pension plans in the nation..and its believed to be followed by many more pensions that are in trouble
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ProducerBadBob:
Reports say a comeback concert tour is planned with members of Men At Work and Men Without Hats to celebrate the current American Economy. The new group will be called Men Without Work
Carl's-conscience:
Joe, they just keep making the problem worse....each time they increase pay...they increase the size of the unfunded pensions that we can not afford to pay now...its approx 300 million in unfunded pensions just for city of Redding
Carl's-conscience:
lol
Carl's-conscience:
months before they let the public know... the city admin in Trent began buying hundreds of cases of bottled water for the city employees to drink
Carl's-conscience:
Obama is in Saudi Arabia on a job interview...
Carl's-conscience:
manziel actually lost that endorsement months ago but he forgot to open his mail...hangover
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Carl's-conscience:
didn't pass the bill that would have wiped out the home firearms business
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Sungold:
Good Morning
ProducerBadBob:
Hello Sun
Sungold:
Re: /Trent...make one feel all worm and cozy about City officials caring about the people in the community....NOT
Carl's-conscience:
A National Guard team has won the Army's Best Ranger competition for the first time in its 33-year history, the service announced.....what has happened to the Army ? lol
Carl's-conscience:
need to make sure Ranger Rick sees this
Joe:
so city gives more money to police salaries, when we know they are planning a sales tax to fund more officers. That's why the money went to raises instead of more officers, to keep the community in pain and aware that we are under staffed.
Carl's-conscience:
perfect logic Joe
Sungold:
Joe, have you met with someone from the City and said that exact statement to them?
Joe:
I believe there were a number of people from shasta support services who made similar comments last night
Red:
You're missing it. They need the money for pensions
Red:
They need to squeeze the public to cover the PERS shortfall and that is gonna be the sales tax $$$
Carl's-conscience:
if they can get 5 likeminded people in the council, they will have the five votes to declare a 'fiscal emergency' which they already tried last year... if they get it they can use any revenue, anywhere they choose
Joe:
Government, unrestrained, only serves to grow itself, and does so at the expense of those it is supposed to serve.
Red:
They have insufficient revenue....
Carl's-conscience:
even if the money was supposed to be for something else....like a sales tax increase to hire more officers...the new tax would be 1% for 6 years(approx) thats 120 million dollars
Joe:
they, just like the state of california, have a spending problem, not an income problem.
Carl's-conscience:
yep
Carl's-conscience:
I agree Bob...lived here all my life and have never seen so many turkeys
Sungold:
Car, you asked your listening audience to stop sending you pictures and stories about the turkeys on one of your shows
Carl's-conscience:
road kill turkeys hunting....interesting approach
Sungold:
I have pictures of the turkeys looking in my dining room window. Some taken by me from the inside and some taken by neighbors from their cars
Red:
The plot is to place a sales tax for public safety, then pull reciprocal funds out of current police budget and push it into PERS gap
Carl:
Send them to me
Carl's-conscience:
Linda, the city council has been doing that for the last few years...not looking us in the face and telling us what they are doing...just surprising us with what the behind the scene discussions have been
Carl's-conscience:
lol
Red:
Excess compared to what?
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RallySally:
Hey Wiedy!
Wiedy:
Goooood morning!
ProducerBadBob:
Hello Hello
Joe:
Sheriff, how long is the current wait for a new CCW appointment, and how can that time be shortened?
Carl's-conscience:
anyone have an idea of what the unfunded pension level looks like for the county ? is it as bad as the city issue ?
Red:
Yes I do Carl
Carl's-conscience:
that was the intent of spending the 155 thousand for the study
Carl's-conscience:
more game playing...
Red:
It is not as bad as a ratio as the city, but it is much larger
Carl's-conscience:
does the Sheriff believe the have the unfunded pension issue solved on a county level ? does he believe giving raises will have an impact on the unfunded pension issue ?
Wiedy:
Ah he beat me to it.
Red:
Aren't the BOS in the middle of discussing a new conservancy to control our region
RallySally:
Yes, they were given a presentation yesterday by the Inner Coastal Range Conservancy.
ProducerBadBob:
Does not matter what the explanation is, it won't be believed anyway...it MUST be Evil Intent...
Wiedy:
Riiiggghhht
RallySally:
And we should have no reason to be concerned, right Bob?
ProducerBadBob:
I'm not a pollyanna, but I do believe in Occam's Razor.
ProducerBadBob:
The Simpliest Explanation is generally the most likely to be correct.
Red:
And what is the simplest explanation Bob?
RallySally:
Right.
ProducerBadBob:
And the simplest and most likely explanation is that they were training...and got curious. I'm pretty sure federal agents have better things to do than follow local folks around
ProducerBadBob:
But NOTHING will convince people who thrive on such Evil Empire Intentions any different.
ProducerBadBob:
So...*shrugs
Red:
So the reasonable explanation is DHS saw patriots and view them as a threat so decided to observe and report?
RallySally:
Well, the government has given us plenty of reason to suspect their intentions.
ProducerBadBob:
No...I think two guys in a car wondered what all the noise was about
Wiedy:
Aperantly you didn't follow Oregon. It's a short jump from a peaceful rally to a deadman roadblock on a snowy mountain highway
RallySally:
Exactly, Wiedy.
ProducerBadBob:
By the way I have the same level of healthy skepticism toward Chemtrails, Global Warming and Other various Fears
Carl's-conscience:
come on guys....just look at the simple explanations Hillary gave ...
ProducerBadBob:
I have been accused of being a stooge for liberals...which anyone who actually KNOWS me..will tell you is pretty much hogwash
Red:
The point isn't why they were in town to begin with, the point is they stopped to observe a patriot rally because it WAS a patriot rally
Carl's-conscience:
we keep giving raises but we can't approve the 128 beds vs the 64....thanx Moty for that great logic
RallySally:
Right-and the IRS isn't targeting Patriot groups, not a smidgeon of evidence for that!
Carl's-conscience:
I'm sure there is a simple explanation
Red:
Do you think they would of stopped if it was a Hillary rally?
Carl's-conscience:
only if Hillary was under sniper fire....again
ProducerBadBob:
Oh I do believe that there was some stupid there. And I am not saying that it didn't happen. But any real investigation does not show up in a visible form. Be much more aware of what you are sending in your text messages and tweets than where you are standing.
Carl's-conscience:
yep
RallySally:
We had Gadsen flags-that made us suspect.
Carl's-conscience:
passive surveillance
RallySally:
Gadsen flags are a symbol of terrorists.
ProducerBadBob:
Just saying it's real easy to be led to look in the wrong direction for a threat.
ProducerBadBob:
It's not the one you see that gets ya
Red:
Welcone to be profiled by LE
Wiedy:
Being observed from a marked car is an intimidation tactic. It's called presence of force.
RallySally:
This Doug LaMalfa commercial makes me scream-YOU ARE THE ONES DOING THE SPENDING-not us!
Red:
He sounds like he's on prozac...
Carl's-conscience:
Sally, but it wasn't my fault, I could only focus on ag stuff...lol
RallySally:
:)
Red:
But Sal, what happened to you guys in Redding is the same profiling that happens to other groups all the time
RallySally:
What other groups?
Carl's-conscience:
by the way...did I mention that Macarthy would make a great speaker of the house...because he was my roommate as a freshman house member ?
Red:
Everything from Muslim Organizations to Indian Pow Wows
ProducerBadBob:
I'd just like to be able to walk from here to the Yuba Street Post office without feeling like a target or a walking ATM...
Red:
Why it is so important we fight for equal application of law
Carl's-conscience:
its time to clean up the pay scale program in the county and the city...and lets get to fighting the unions, as we know thats coming..
Red:
If it is ok to profile and intimidate someone for a towel on their head or a black lives matter sign....it's ok to profile a Gadsen Flag
Carl's-conscience:
we need to make MANY cuts...this would be just one
Red:
Equal treatment under the law, sucks to wear the other guys shoes don't it?
Wiedy:
We'll never be successful against the city and county unions as long as we are part of Ca.
ProducerBadBob:
Ah well...it just makes the San Juan Islands look better and better all the time... :P
Carl's-conscience:
you are only getting profiled...because you are not them...you are not part of the govt...lol
Red:
Now you're getting to the heart of it
Carl's-conscience:
Wiedy...there are some things that can be done and its becoming inevitable
Carl's-conscience:
as soon as you book your class...you should make your county appt
Wiedy:
Ya like a Greek style federal bailout.
Red:
Bail in Wiedy, baill in
Wiedy:
Ya cut out the middleman.
Joe:
also makes magazines that ever held more or were designed for more than 10 rounds, like every glock, sig, and XD mag
Red:
Where does it say any of that in the Constitution?
Sungold:
Love the San Juan Islands...one we were on did not have many street signs...made it very difficult to find anything
ProducerBadBob:
Just means you have to get to know a local. Next two summers will be spend outfitting and preparing the Sabot-Tour for explorations.
Red:
Is a restriction the same as an infringement?
Wiedy:
So the question is will our sheriff enforce these unconstitutional laws?
Carl's-conscience:
it was a setup ! the friend is an undercover informant for ATF !! lol
Sungold:
Lots of commercialization, especially near the ferry docks, but you can go out into the hinterlands and it is beautiful
Carl's-conscience:
that failed
Red:
If an individual chose to not comply with these cleary unconstitutional laws, would Tom arrest them?
Carl's-conscience:
if the chief supports the new bills... then no more raises...and cut the budget
Carl's-conscience:
we will need to save that budget money for bullets to give to community members ..lol
Carl's-conscience:
after the waiting period of course...
Wiedy:
Question? Can a county nullify state law in the same way a state can nullify federal law.
Red:
No
Red:
But a Jury can
Red:
Heroin
Joe:
Sheriff, what good do cameras do? If I have the thief on camera the jail is full and he still gets released
Joe:
Chief says 6-7 min for an active shooter? The last active shooter by Waterworks was 22 minutes!!!