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Sungold: Good Morning
Sungold: Thursday rant! Sine when is Amazon.com refusing to sell a product because one is not a member? Did Bernie Sanders buy them!
Sungold: Since
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Sungold: No, they want ,e to pay 99.00 for a Prime membership
Sungold: me
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Sungold: I am a good customer and have bought this product regularly. Yesterday they refused to sell it to me unless I paid the 99.00
ProducerBadBob: OK, you have to have Prime to buy ANYTHING or just to get the Free Shipping?
ProducerBadBob: I'll look into that.
Sungold: Prime gives you free shipping, movies, and other stuff. I always get free shipping anyway because I bundle my purchases. I do not want Prime nor do I need it
ProducerBadBob: hmmm you may want to call their customer service because I see nothing about products being restricted in that manner.
ProducerBadBob: what is the product if I can ask?
Sungold: Refused to sell me a detergent for washing clothes...very large container.
Sungold: Persil is the brand
Sungold: I am calling customer service right now!
ProducerBadBob: I'd give them a call and ask for clarification on the policy, and tell them that they are doing themselves a disservice
Guest: when did a persons sexual preference become a protected class ? what other preferences will be getting class protection
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Guest: let your imagination run
ProducerBadBob: I want my own bathroom with left-handed fixures!
Guest: oral, bondage etc... do they all get class protection
drmaria: guest: yep slippery slope argument
drmaria: guest: this is just the stept to desensitize the masses as well
Guest: what you 'choose' to do behind closed doors is up to each person...we don't need to hear about it and you don't get a participation ribbon for coming out with it
drmaria: BB: are you a southpaw....?? LOL
ProducerBadBob: In fact I am in my Right Mind
drmaria: Me too!!
Guest: do you two want class protection for being left handed in your right mind or is this just a harmless banter
drmaria: Yeah Guest....because The World owes me - that's how I role.
Guest: reparations !!!
Guest: this guy is an idiot kool aid drinker
ProducerBadBob: Man the alert shovel...
drmaria: who the H' is this guy
drmaria: Whuuuuut!!!!
ProducerBadBob: *passes out the chest waders*
Guest: "I'm not sure it would have even made a difference" ....What difference does it make now....sound familiar... GET RID OF THIS GUY...he is an Establishment clone
drmaria: the red flag was all his complaining about his training when he was first introduced.....Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!!!!!
Guest: who is this guy ? didn't catch his name ?
Guest: she doesn't care
drmaria: Distraction!!!
drmaria: Answer the question Sir!!!!
Guest: stay back there...they may want to listen to your BS spin... but real Americans do not
ProducerBadBob: He's an army reserve Major and I didn't get his name.
drmaria: Hank, Henry....
drmaria: Ok....I sure as heck don't need coffee now!! #heatedup
drmaria: so he's worried about what his friends will say to him
drmaria: Bad Bob: I feel like David After Dentist right now...."Is this real life...?"
ProducerBadBob: it's a strange strange world now
Guest: demented...hank..you are living in the clouds, good for you but bad for the rest of us
Guest: maybe he received a head injury that we don't know about
ProducerBadBob: It was to say the least, somewhat surreal....
ProducerBadBob: In technical terms it's what we call The Reality Distortion Field...
Sungold: Yikes, I missed all that!
Sungold: Really, really strange world BB
Sungold: Seems like every day there is another battle to deal with!
Sungold: And in my case just this morning, the people are in India and cannot be understood very well. sigh
ProducerBadBob: ouch...
Carl: -I battled it out woth India trhe other day.Ask for American--they have to send you to there. I was abvle to handle matter then.
Sungold: Thanks Carl, they try hard to be understood, but sometimes....it just does not work.
Sungold: Next time I will try your suggestion
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ProducerBadBob: Hello MP
drmaria: Nadine so witty
MPseabee: Morning
ProducerBadBob: Hey MP
MPseabee: Morning BB
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MPseaber: Dang back button
MPseaber: Supposed to be seabee
MPseaber: How's it going chat room?
MPseaber: What's up Doc?
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drmaria: Yo MPseabee!!
drmaria: I can't tell if you are still in the Chatroom - Howz it Brudda!!??
drmaria: is she running again? Beth?
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Dave: I support dam removal. It is inevitable and will be even more successful than the Etwa river dam removal. Basically, take out a dam, restore the normal flow of silt and build an estuary.
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Dave: The low value crops, like potatoes can be grown just about anywhere in the U.S.
ProducerBadBob: I wonder if low impact weirs that fish can pass through and still be able to generate scaled peaking power and using the existing infrastructure, can be a viable alternative to big hydro facilities.
Dave: Agriculture in the Klamath basin should be changing to high value crops like fruit trees, blueberries, etc. With high value crops, agriculture can still be profitable if it has to use some well water.
Dave: When the dams were built, they harmed fish two important ways. Most attention is given to the loss of spawning grounds. Just as important is the loss of silt flow to the estuaries. The normal flow is needed to replace the sand washed away by storms. Healthy estuaries provide the forage fish also
ProducerBadBob: Just seems that smaller less impact hydro generators can harness the flow without harming the fish.
Dave: Forage fish, also known as "bait fish" which are so important to the fishery. I love yummy crab cakes.
Dave: T
Dave: The Columbia river salmon fishery is doing very well, thanks in part to the Etwa river dam removal and the estuary created by the silt flowing downstream. Many articles show aerial photos of the estuary.
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sflow: Massive Meat and Chicken Recall: Listeria Warning For 47 Million Pounds Sold Nationwide
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Dave: UC Davis Ag school can help Klamath farmers adapt to growing high value crops. Low value, heavy water use crops which can be grown in other states should be leaving CA, especially the SJ valley where the water table has fallen so much and the soil contaminated by selenium and boron from overdraftin
sflow: The deadly Listeria recall has been expanded to 47 million pounds of meat and poultry sold at Trader Joe's, Costco and other stores.
Steven: We should be careful about attacking farmers by telling them what crops to plant. Isn't that infringing on their freedoms? Don't we need the products they grow for us?
drmaria: ughhhhh
Sungold: Very interesting history facts here today, much learned in such a short time!
ProducerBadBob: Brenda and I were looking the flood-level Trinity River...mind you we are still in DROUGHT...and the property owners there are freaking out...amazing
Steven: One way to hurt America is to ruin their food supply. Jane Fonda is a moron, a treasonist horrible person. Not one good word has come from that woman.
Steven: Somehow we must put fish somewhere down the priority list from HUMANS.
Dave: When I lived in the midwest, tomatoes grew so well on just rainfall that you were warned to lock your car at the supermarket so somebody does not leave a bag of tomatoes and zucchinni on the seat.
Dave: Growing cotton in CA only works because of federal subsidized water. Most cotton is grown in the Cotton belt. CA produces less than 5% of the nation's crop and overdrafting the reservoir is creating permanent problems with soil poisoned by selenium and boron from deep in the earth's crust.
Dave: Many sailors and marines have pulled duty at NAS Lemoore. Cotton as far as the eye can see.
Steven: Dave, your stats are not correct about the % of crops our state produces. Way off.
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Steven: BadBob can probably find those stats much faster than me.
Dave: I was talking about the cotton crop, probably the worst environmental and economic disaster for CA.
Steven: OK. I don't know about cotton. But beef, dairy, milk, almonds, walnuts, hay, tomatoes, etc are crops CA produces for our entire nation.
Dave: There is a much cheaper solution than Sites Reservoir. Low value, water thirsty crops which can grow in other states should move there. The land can go fallow.
Steven: I dn't believe productive land should go fallow unless there is too much food being produced. We're not there yet.
ProducerBadBob: Texas produced twice as much cotton, California at #2 produces slightly more than MS and AL
ProducerBadBob: The four states combine for 50% or overall production.
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ProducerBadBob: http://www.stuffaboutstates.com/agriculture/crops/cotton.htm
sflow: water is life!!!!!!!!
Dave: There is a lot of fallow land in the midwest and east coast. Part of the reason is lack of infrastructure. Some farmland was divided into too small parcels for economic production. Spend some time in the Garden State, west of the garden state parkway, Or better, fly over NJ and PA.