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Onion_grower: Whether or not D passes, we are going to need a county wide sales tax hike from a board of supervisors referendum for a county jail to benefit everyone in the county.
Onion_grower: After listening to both R-S facebook chats on measure D, I think zero money from D will go for a jail expansion.
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jimmy: good morning KCNR
Onion_grower: Redding is a brick and mortar retail center for five counties. Brick and mortar retail is in real trouble. Kohls, Macys, Sears, Kmart, etc are closing as more people switch to shopping online.
Onion_grower: The customer experience of shopping online is great. I can look on Amazon.com and find a great selection plus great reviews to help decide what I want.
Onion_grower: I wouldn't buy 2 x 4s or bags of concrete on amazon, but I would buy a $400 nail gun.
Onion_grower: As consumers get more experience, the next step is to look at other vendors for what you found on amazon. Usually you can find what you want from a vendor which does not collect sales tax. The total price, after tax and shipping is much lower. You are supposed to report those sales on your CA tax
Onion_grower: Shopping online keeps setting records. The more people try it, the more they like it. Gary Cadd said city of Redding sales tax receipts were down $1.8 million.
Onion_grower: As Gary explained, the CA board of equalization was holding the sales tax it owed Redding and Shasta county and only paid the last $600 million last year.
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Onion_grower: If the fed raises interest rates and the stock market corrects, CA could lose enough capital gains tax receipts to put the state back in deficit.
Onion_grower: Larry Less and county staff should get to work writing referenda like measures D and E for a county wide sales tax for public safety. That is the only way to get a jail expansion in the next five years.
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RallySally: Unfortunately, in California, does it really matter how we vote for President? It will go to the Dems anyway.
Onion_grower: The tea party should be leading the fight against measure D. Instead they are showing their lack of knowledge on infectious disease, immunology and dysmorphic genetics with a fruitless antivaccine campaign.
RallySally: Obviously, you are uninformed, Onion_grower.
Onion_grower: There is abundant information in the medical literature on the causes of autism. Genetic. Advanced maternal age. Advanced paternal age. Closely spaced pregnancies from women who held of childbearing, then have them closer than then 1.5 years recommended by the American College of Obstetrics and
Onion_grower: Obstetrics and Gynecology. Many children who were diagnosed as ADHD ten years ago are now diagnosed as autism spectrum. There is a lot of overlap between the two.
RallySally: Have you seen the documentary VAXXED? There is much evidence to the contrary of what you speak.
Onion_grower: When the tea party started, it showed such potential. There used to be several physicians who attended.
Carl: need to watch the Vaxxed documentary... the doctors make some logical and significant points...
Onion_grower: The tea party self destructed by embracing nonsense like anti-vaccine, State of Jefferson and chemtrails. I prefer to get medical knowledge from the medical literature.
Carl: are you a doctor Onion ?
Carl: Jack is my neighbor, just went over and saw his 'new' truck
Onion_grower: Whoever is funding the tea party should replace current leadership with more effective.
Carl: Onion, are you a doctor ?
Carl: Waul does so much for this community
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RallySally: No one is "funding " the Tea Party.
RallySally: Obviously, you are uninformed Onion_grower.
Onion_grower: LaMalfa employs Erin Ryan.
Sungold: Military show sounds great, my husband and his friend will love that
Sungold: Onion is a one man chat room
Carl: lol... he has had to carry the load before the rest of us arrived...
Onion_grower: LaMalfa should demand a complete replacement of tea party leadership.
Sungold: an beyond Carl
Carl: does Tea Party even exist anymore ? I thought they already shifted in name at least
Sungold: I just told my husband about the Military show, he is going to go!
Onion_grower: Under the current tea party leadership, it has cost the republicans votes in this county.
Onion_grower: Carl, I hope you will start talking about the need for a county referendum for a county sales tax for jail expansion. We will need it whether or not D passes.
Sungold: Doni Greenberg has a great article on REU on A New Cafe...plus a very impressive picture, as well
RallySally: Erin Ryan hasn't been involved with the group for over two years. You are obviously uninformed, Onion_grower.
Carl: we should be pushing to defeat D and E and move to have a special election in March or April for a smaller city tax that is specific and a county tax that is specific for jail beds
Sungold: I agree with that
RallySally: I agree that Measure D and E should be defeated. But not with anotherkindof tax.
Sungold: It never fails to amaze me how the City does not think things through. LIke this sales tax
Carl: then what is the solution Sally ?...we need more beds...how do we get them
Carl: Chief in Anderson is awesome... Mike is on the job and has a great strategy
RallySally: Gary Cadd advocated hiring more CSO's 4 years ago-using the money in the rainy day fund. If public safety isn't a crisis condition, I don't now what you would call it.
Carl: he sucks at poker but he is a great chief and has a great team...lol
Onion_grower: We don't need more cops, we need fewer criminals. Jail expansion would turn things back like it was when Gary Cadd, Carl and I moved to Shasta County.
Carl: I would be good with the additional CSO's but I want them as independent contractors somehow so they do not exacerbate the unfunded pension issue
Sungold: You have to store their stuff? What stuff? Dirty rags, needles, drugs, filthy bed rolls, I say dump what they do not take. Store it for what?
Carl: it has to be jail expansion.... restriction management says that more officers is going to have very little impact on crime and will make our budget issues worse
RallySally: There is NO PLACE for more beds-even if the tax increase goes through.
Carl: Sally, that is the issue they don't want to talk about
Sungold: CSO's are an integral part of any police department. They have been greatly missed. They really took the load off of the sworn officer with paperwork, and non-dangerous responses
Carl: but we need those CSO's to be independent contractors
RallySally: Yes, Sungold-by law the "stuff" collected from the clean ups, have to be stored for 3 months, I think.
Sungold: Plus working special events, traffic, and so much more. Independent contractors would be fine, but they need lots of training
Onion_grower: Redding is a white flight town. Not PC, but everyone knows it. White addicts and mentally ill move here because of lack of jail space. Gangs are not nearly as bad in Redding as the rest of CA, and gang predators in places like Stockton cause addicts to move here.
Carl: city planners and permit staff have forgotten how they get paid....need to connect it for them ...leadership is the issue..it ALL comes back to the top...city manager needs to GO
Sungold: That is riduclous,, if they do not take it with them, they do not want it. Why store filth?
RallySally: It's California law.
Sungold: I agree, Starman was there when I was working there. At one small point in time I had to report to him...not impressed
Carl: I gave them a solution more than a year ago.... lease groups city property for a dollar a year... then they can come in immediatelky and clean up and do not have to store anything
Sungold: There is a plethora of CA laws that should be dumped
RallySally: State of Jefferson!
Onion_grower: Why do addicts and mentally ill choose Redding and not Stockton, Oroville, Eureka,Marysville, etc?
Sungold: At the City Council meeting I learned from an officer about some of the "stuff" they have had stored for over 20 years. What a waste of space, totally ridiculous
Sungold: We all know why Onion.
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Carl: you are spot on Onion
jimmy: good mornig carl
Carl: good morning
Sungold: That gentleman who wrote an article in the Opinion section a few Sundays ago hit the nail on the head when he told about going to the park and tried to hire a few homeless for $25 per hour to do some light work. They told him they get what they want for free, and that is why they came to Redding!
Sungold: Hi Jimmy, in town for the three day weekend?
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jimmy: Hi SG. I actually was in town for two weeks. then back out last week. i had to take a day off to take care of buisness today though . so glad to be in the North state
Shastaminded: I am beginning to wonder if we need a new chief of police in Redding. Paoletti has had about 5 years in the job but I sure don't think families feel any safer.
Carl: i agree
jimmy: What? Some guy went to the park and asked people to work for twenty five an hour? I need to start hanging out at the park
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RTE: Here's the real news... impending war with Russia.. don't we have a wonderful press these days? http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/moscow-vs-washington-is-russia-preparing-for-war-with-the-us/news-story/444f17e317a1b266f3dd8dfc282d4dae
ShastaSarah: Hey can someone ask LaMalfa what his opinion is on Obama getting rid of private for profit prisons? Will that have an impact on crime locally?
Jared: yes
RTE: I wonder if LaMalfa knows what's going on withPutin?
jimmy: I heard on the news that every state in the union has had thier crime rates lower year by year the last several years except for california's that has gone up thanks to prop 47
Carl: We have real problems and its time to be irritated more at the attempt to distract with politically correct bs
RTE: I here that there has been releases nation wide. But our state is close to being communist and we have no money to deal with the problem
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jimmy: more and more people are fed up with being politically correct as aa distraction
RallySally: Please ask the Congressman if he voted to Impeach John Koskinen-the IRS commissioner/liar.
RTE: Doug has to fight even though he thinks we don't have the numbers. We didn't take Normandy with his mind set.
RTE: I think Putin is waiting to see if we elect Trump. But if we elect this corrupt woman, then I fear we will have a war.
RallySally: The TPP and the TPA are interconnected. They wouldn't be voting on the TPP if the TPA hadn't passed. Doug voted for the TPA.
RallySally: I can't find the results of the vote to impeach John Koskinen anywhere online. It was taken several weeks ago. It was a house vote-please ask him.
RTE: The trade bills have to be scuttled, re negotiated for our labor. Lets be real. Obama is not for America, he is for dissolving our country into a region of a world government.
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RallySally: RallySally
RallySally: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/4/irs-subjects-tea-party-groups-to-new-round-of-scru/
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RallySally: They are STILL targeting conservative groups. We are one of those groups that have NEVER gotten our tax status! 6 years ago.
RTE: What we need to do is round up the homeless druggies and all their drugs and give them a bus ride and one way tour to see our state capitol.
ShastaSarah: Thanks for taking my question!
Jared: your welcome
Jared: youre*
RallySally: The Republicans wimped out--again.
Red: What does Doug think his 3 biggest accomplishments that directly affected the North State were the last 2 years?
RTE: yep
RallySally: NO ONE is being held accountable-that is WHY they are arogant!
Sungold: I don't think Trish looks at the chat room, is that right?
Jared: no but i can relay any questions or comments
RallySally: People don't even show up for a supeona any more.
Red: What does Doug think his 3 biggest accomplishments that directly affected the North State were the last 2 years?
RTE: We'd be in better shape if the US House had done it's job and de-funded Obamacare and blocked these trade attacks
RallySally: Because they know nothingwill happen to them.
Jared: i asked hang on
Red: Ty
Jared: after the break
RallySally: The HOUSE has the power to IMPEACH-the Senate CONVICTS.
Sungold: Yes Jimmy, he wanted to prove something and he started at $20.00 an hour and no takers, so he went up to $25.00 an hour, still no takers...they did not need to work they said they get everything they need for free in Redding
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Jared: i will pretend to be homeless for $25 an hour
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RTE: The answer to the homeless problem is to secretly give them midnight rides to Sacramento where the criminals belong.
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Sungold: Yea Jaren, but my guess is you would not like hanging out with that element
Sungold: The homeless criminal element belong in Sacramento at the door of the Capatol
Gref: Were you all aware that Seattle advertises to the homeless there to come to Redding, Comfortable climate and free stuff.
Gref: Doug helped me.
Sungold: Jared, typo
Gref: Thanks Doug for making Oakland VA move their rear ends.
RTE: Is Doug aware that we are close to war with Russia?
Sungold: I do not think the homeless element should receive help from Redding if they are not actually long term residents here...send them back where they came from
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RTE: Are you getting knocked off Sally
jimmy: where do they advertise that Grief? TV radio magazines?
jimmy: Gref
Gref: On power poles....homeless dont have t.v.s or radios...lol
RTE: I heard that only twenty people showed at the debate between Reed and Doug... LOL
jimmy: DERR. I'm a little slow sometines lol
Gref: lol
RallySally: The State of Jefferson would not have to go hat in hand to Barbara Boxer and Diane Feinstein.
jimmy: and the guy that runs the mission says percent of the homeless here are from here. BS. One can just tell they are not
jimmy: ninety percent
RTE: We are having criminals dumped here that are NOT FROM HE!
jimmy: got tog o folks see yall later
RTE: HERE
RTE: Adios Jim
Red: So....1)non-specific Veteran stuff, kinda, 2) A forestry Bill that hasn't moved in two years,n't
Gref: I agree Jimmy. They arent all from here.
Red: 3) Area of origin water that has done nothing to stop our ranchers and farmers from being served cease and desist on irrigation
Red: or anything to actually protect water...how about the Dam removal?
RTE: We need to be impeaching the trouble makers in the administration, even if it is late. This would expose the leftist criminals that have put us in jeopardy with Russia
Gref: Why should the homeless want to work or do anything responsible? They get free phones, sleep in tents in back yards of empty homes, shoot they even break into the homes, they get food stamps, and welfare checks....all tax free. Then they beg at corners and some guilty folks give them tax free incom
RTE: Do you think Hillary would have a chance, if the news was reporting the truth?
Gref: RTE: I wonder sometimes, are we close to war? Or is it saber rattling for an excuse to ramp up defense? Ramp up contracts?
RTE: We should be fighting ISIS. We are lying to Putin and this is the problem
Gref: I wish more poeple would get on board, but sadly this new weaker generation filled with sissies, cant handle anything without guilt.
Gref: Its sad when we have more respect for Putin than our own president.
RTE: We backed the overthrow in Egypt, and the overthrow of Kadfi, and now we are fighting Syria and secretly supporting ISIS
Red: I wonder if blaming the younger generation isn't just saber rattling by the older generation trying to distract from them screwing up the country
Gref: When Reagan was in charge, the Iranians backed down, russia had a coup, the Berlin wall came down, and many communist governments fell.
Gref: Red: in WW2, Korea, and Viet Nam, most 18 year olds were on the front line wining freedom. Now most 18 year olds need a safe place from someone offending them with their words.
RTE: If hillary steals this election, I fear we will slip into war
Red: And who raised them?
Gref: If Hillary steals the election I fear 1 world government.
Red: Who auctioned their inheritance?
RTE: Putin is not a globalist
Gref: Red: My kids were raised in a military patriotic non politically correct environment
RTE: Neither are the American population
Red: Who created the public education system that created them?
Gref: Red...baby boomers auctioned their inheritance.
Gref: Red: democrats
Gref: Red: DR Spock
Gref: Red: Hillary did
Gref: Obama and his cronies
RTE: Democrats have been traitors for years and years. Our problem was not following our constitution. Limps like doug have been too weak
Red: Lol and Republicans had nothing to do with that right?
RTE: Wimps... not limps
Gref: Who gave away billions of dollars to corporations too bail them out? That then sent the money over seas to gain interest? Obama
RTE: You'
Red: Bush
RTE: re right Red
Sungold: A few years ago we went to see our granddaughter who had the lead part in Peter Pan at her grammer school in Sacramento. I was stunned to see this huge picture on the gym wall. of Obama. It reminded me of all those WW movies in which Hitlers picture was plastered all over in schools and homes
RTE: both sides but I say that there are those Republicans that are really democrats
Gref: RTE: I agree
Red: That's gonna be a good football game
Gref: Red: my Father is a special forces trained Viet Nam combat veteran. When those college kids were at woodstock, my dad was in Viet Nam.
Red: Reed's half a Socialist
Gref: I was raised with patriotism
Red: So was I
RTE: Red, is soros really gong to tabulate our votes in Spain?
Red: Vette everything on the Internet RTE
RTE: Vette?
Gref: I used to like and respect the Bush family until they endorsed Killary
Red: Check the source, who wrote it and who owns and who they give or get money from
RTE: Forget that part of life Trish
Gref: The only nice thing about Burkas in the USA would be that we never have to see Killarys face again,,,as well as feinstein, and boxer
RTE: I say we all need Birkas to fight the isalmists.. that would really confuse them
Gref: It worked in several speec ops missions
Gref: Hooaa
RTE: You can hide those ARs and bazooks under that garb
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