Carl:
Good morning
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jimmy:
good morning KCNR
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Sungold:
Happy Friday all!
Sungold:
Hey Jimmy, how goes it?
jimmy:
Hi SG. Came back into town last night and am back for a week. Yee haw
Sungold:
Oh that is good. Will you be home for Christmas?
jimmy:
Oh Yeah ;)
jimmy:
Was in Texas for Thanksgiving. Some peasent differences there for sure.
jimmy:
pleasent
jimmy:
pleasant.....geez
Sungold:
Like what?
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jimmy:
reasonable gun laws. No motorcycle helmet laws, price of food is lower , gas was 1.79 a gallon and real estate is about 2/3 the price here
jimmy:
real estate in Abiliene compared to Shasta County.
jimmy:
I would rather live in Shasta County , don't get me wrong.
jimmy:
The people there are very much like most people here. friendly compared to southern CA
RTE:
Cops Lives Matter
RTE:
Barry is a cop hater
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jimmy:
1/2 of 1% of Black males die from police shootings. 83% of black males die at the hands of other black males. Where is black lives matters on that subject?
Onion_grower:
The Trayvon Martin movement, renamed Black Lives Matter was one of the reasons the democrats lost the election.
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Sungold:
Oh yea, we were constantly amazed at the lower prices of homes and land when we traveled in our RV. Especially in idaho around Cour d'alene, where it is so beautiful
Onion_grower:
The liberal media is clueless, offering one failed strategy after another.
RTE:
People are people. We talk about groups, and when we do that is dividing races. Intelligent people do not see color.
jimmy:
Really? I thought Cour d'alene was spendy.
jimmy:
maybe just spendy for Idaho
Onion_grower:
Young black men, but not mature black men or black women drive aggressively and get pulled over more than whites.
Jarhead:
Jimmy, Abilene Texas ?
jimmy:
yes sir Abilene
Sungold:
I was in Texas as a kid, never went back there
Onion_grower:
Young black men act defiantly toward officers. Obama and other black leaders should be sending the message: If the officer tells you to put down your weapon, do it.
RTE:
I was born in San Fernando so I could be close to my mother.
Onion_grower:
The good news: liberals are clueless. They will continue with the Trayvon Martin-Black lives matter strategy and continue to lose votes.
RTE:
The black lives matter movement simply is fueled by hate.
RTE:
Does Dr McConnell think a single payer system is a great Idea like your friend did the other day Carl?
RTE:
Cops have to check out reports... there could have been a home invasion.. a murder
RTE:
Carl...Does Dr McConnell think a single payer system is a great Idea like your friend did the other day?
jimmy:
vintage rock concert posters. acid free backing and ultraviolet glass
jimmy:
What is this single payer system i keep hearing about. My med unsurance is around $450 a month. OUCH
jimmy:
Insurance
RTE:
McConnell is a doctor, I wish to hear his opinion.
RTE:
John Glenn died at 95.. he did well... but lets talk about our troubled health care system and what to do about it.
RTE:
I seem to remember that he was a Democrat... made some decisions I didn't like.
Sungold:
My audio on this site keeps going out since yesterday. Have to keep clicking the audio button.
RTE:
probably need to update your browser
Sungold:
I took advantage of Carl's deal with Omaha yesterday, it is very neat. I called them and they were very good to work with.
Sungold:
Update my browser? I have Windows 10 and do all the updates weekly
RTE:
I absolutely agree
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RTE:
It is the insurance, trial lawyers that troubled our system
RTE:
And our insurance providers should have been allowed to cross state lines
RTE:
To streamline government the citizens usually lose rights
Jarhead:
Jimmy...born in Abilene...back in 61...never hear about that town...
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jimmy:
Wow Ryan is excited, he sure wasnt a few months ago
RTE:
I know... I'd say a never rumper.. almost
RTE:
Trumper
jimmy:
when was the last time you were there Jarhead?
Jarhead:
25 years ago...went back for a debate tourney while in college and visited just to say I was there
jimmy:
Do you know the place by the airport where they have the worlds biggest BBQ festival?
Jarhead:
lol...no
RTE:
I view globalism like nazism
Jarhead:
my dad's company built part of the military base
jimmy:
Dyes
jimmy:
The Airforce base?
Jarhead:
yep
jimmy:
Been there several times
Jarhead:
it used to be called Abilene air force base
RTE:
I still haven't recovered from the election... such a relief.. we dcame close to losing our freedom
jimmy:
Is that the company that has a electrical , plumbing , framing, concrete ect all in one?
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CaptainKirk:
Beam me up Scotty
CaptainKirk:
Forget it Scotty. got to ask Francie about unfunded liabilities..??
CaptainKirk:
Does Francie have a CCW?
CaptainKirk:
OK... Ill wait untill the end of the meeting to ask questions.. Beam me up
CaptainKirk:
I'll take my answers in space
Mpseabee:
Hmmm...a city council member.. former supervisor...is she one of them supervisors who hired Larry Lee's the 300k per year overpaid c.f.o.?
Jarhead:
no...my dad's company laid under ground cable...when they had the strategic air command there
jimmy:
Ahh. very nice
Mpseabee:
Regarding city issues...we can't afford more police officers, nor for fighters..how do they get the idea they can buy a golf course?
Jarhead:
she wouldn't remember
jimmy:
Mpseabee , i think they said "they would find the money somewhere".
Mpseabee:
11 million..? Wow, how much would go to unfunded salaries?
jimmy:
maybe find it under a rock, or maybe a lucky lotto scratcher. LOL
Mpseabee:
How do you get rid of Starman and neidermeir? Overpaid
Mpseabee:
Jimmy..lol
jimmy:
Oh,Oh I know, raise our taxes again
Jarhead:
ask her where the 26 complaints are.... she told the city attorney they were on her private server..Very 'Clintonesque' ...but told Jenny Espino from the record searchlight that she had them on "little pieces of paper and thinks she threw them away" eventhough if you use them for a decision you are
Mpseabee:
Jimmy..find the money in our pockets
Jarhead:
required to retain them
CaptainKirk:
It used to be a public service job to work for the city.. now its a smorgasbord
Mpseabee:
Why does the police chief in our small town make the 3rd highest position in the state?
Mpseabee:
We need to get rid of these "deans"
Mpseabee:
Seems like Bell city
Jarhead:
I disagree Carl...it is for the money...just not the money from the city...its from those that are pulling your strings...they pay in other ways...
Mpseabee:
She voted for it
Sungold:
What really irks me is that those who serve on city council get medical for life. Many already have medical from other jobs or current jobs. That is just plain stupidity.
CaptainKirk:
the unions backed Francie.. what do you expect
Mpseabee:
Who cares they are overpaid for our area
Jarhead:
clueless
jimmy:
stutter,stutter
Jarhead:
is she related to Nancy Pelosi ?
Mpseabee:
Chief of Police is a lot. Colonel 49th mps
Mpseabee:
Uh.uh.uh.
CaptainKirk:
the rase wouldn't have passed woth the new council
Mpseabee:
Ooooh...driving force lol
Sungold:
That is why they gave it when they did.
Mpseabee:
Enterprise park $ raised by citizens
Mpseabee:
Tell that to the old lady
Jarhead:
everything is about what they would make in other communities....its a joke... who cares what they make somewhere else..is their budget the same as ours ? these people are CLUELESS
Mpseabee:
Got beat up in the morning
CaptainKirk:
does Francie have a CCW?
Mpseabee:
Why doesn't she play in the bark and find the needles
jimmy:
ick
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Mpseabee:
And more for salaries
Jarhead:
parks people do an excellent job ? they spend 50k to hire 'water police' when the city is the worst offender and then tell me personally that they couldn't afford to fix their sprinklers and timers as the money wasn't in the budget
Mpseabee:
Blah blah blah namcy
CaptainKirk:
I think we have to wait till the end of themeeting to have our answers heard.
Mpseabee:
Lol
jimmy:
LOL
Jarhead:
is she awake ?
Mpseabee:
I'm voting against these dean's
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Mpseabee:
Blah uh uh uh
Mpseabee:
Fact= we need lokice
Jarhead:
ask ms. pelosi if she would consider stepping down for the 'good of the community' ?
jimmy:
WHAT?
Mpseabee:
Police
CaptainKirk:
Look at the facts... Francie is a spend an tax politician
Mpseabee:
Is she a democrat
CaptainKirk:
Beam me up Scotty
Mpseabee:
Or a rat
Mike:
Jar: That was after a two year budget was passed a few weeks earlier.
Jarhead:
they took cut in pay because that is what our budget called for....our budget STILL calls for CUTS
TickTock:
Is public safety actually a priority for the City Council? I don't see any reduction in the number of vagrants and the theft rate has skyrocketed. I don't believe anyone feels safe to use the parks or trails.
Jarhead:
you have no point...
Mpseabee:
Private sector only gets a raise if their business is successful
Jarhead:
agree Ticktock
TickTock:
I don't think we even need Kim Neimer's position. Divide that one up among the others too!
CaptainKirk:
Lets go to the phones
Jarhead:
we need real business people in there
Mpseabee:
Agree tick tock
Mpseabee:
Was she on the council when the employees got caught having sex in the stairwell?
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Jarhead:
they only went to other jobs if it was going to help them SPIKE their pensions somehow
Mpseabee:
Yes Jar.. not weaver
Jarhead:
lets not think about what we did....thats done...lets talk about the good....somebody get her some help...
Mpseabee:
City council, Kurt starman= high paid welfare recipients
Jarhead:
starman has to go....and he can push the chair that this one is in as well
Sungold:
You cannot fire an employee who has been there as long as Kim Niemer and is doing her job. When she retires they will do away with that position
Mpseabee:
We need to vote for a mayor who'll run the city not a hired manager
Mpseabee:
Sure you can.. move her to a position she can't do and eliminate her old position
Sungold:
That is the type of government they have in place at this point...the City would have to change that.
Mpseabee:
Let's change it
CaptainKirk:
Can you imagine how hard it was on Cadd to deal with her?
Mpseabee:
Average salary is 42k
Sungold:
Not likely and that would not be fair. She is doing her job, and is close to retirement
Mpseabee:
Blah blah blah
Jarhead:
sorry Sun, you know I respect your perspective...but Kim is clueless...she is the epitome of an upper management public pension person...she is the one that told me that she didn't have the budget to fix the millions in water waste
Jarhead:
Kim needs to go NOW
Mpseabee:
Yep get her out!
Mike:
The city only uses comparible cities for management, not rank and file.
Mpseabee:
Ahhhh.. bunner
Mpseabee:
Bummer
Sungold:
She may be clueless but they are not going to boot her out. I worked for the City, I worked there when Kim was there a long time ago, not going to happen
Mpseabee:
Lol...you want an attorney
Jarhead:
comparable management when it comes to salary's is very WRONG... it will bury cities with budget issues
CaptainKirk:
I wish we could unfund her liability
Mpseabee:
Yep
Mpseabee:
If she was worth anything and if they had good leadership...salaries wouldn't natter
Jarhead:
we can't get rid of her liability...but each day we keep her..adds to our obligation and liability
Sungold:
Her salary is ludicrous and I do not agree with it and was raged when they gave her 1000$ a month more. I had never heard of that
Jarhead:
none of us had...
Mpseabee:
Employees for the county know Lee's doesn't care if they are on welfare
Jarhead:
this is so wrong...we need the attorney general's office to investigate
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Mpseabee:
How do we do that jat?
Mpseabee:
Jar
CaptainKirk:
we have no oversight on REU or a Downtown Redding Business Association because of her voting
Mpseabee:
Fat fingers..my apologies
Jarhead:
is francie napping during commercials ?
Mpseabee:
Boot them out!!
Jarhead:
RECALL
Mpseabee:
Starting with France and Missy
Jarhead:
it is in the works
Mpseabee:
Awesome!!
Jarhead:
Missy is already out
jimmy:
I just seen an article from the Sac bee. It says sacramento city council are making between 62 and 63 thousand a year. the mayor makes about $120,000. How much does the city council and mayor make here?
Mpseabee:
Out if city limits
jimmy:
http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article29921656.html
Mike:
Starman ru8ns the city. Council members are the required rubber stamp.
Jarhead:
Francie/Kristin and Brent have an exciting 2017 coming
Mpseabee:
Transparent California
Hawperz:
Any city employee makinf over
Sungold:
I hope Julie Winter and the other new member should do OK. Julie is a go getter and she gets things done
Mpseabee:
Look up any city, county, public school and state salaries
Jarhead:
starman is the ultimate decision that must be made...300k for the condition our city is in ? amazing
Jarhead:
reddingtownhall.com
Mpseabee:
How many cops could we hire with that money
Sungold:
I was never impressed with Starman....he was rather arrogant and certainly not much help to any of us.
Mpseabee:
Sure you are
CaptainKirk:
Maybe when winter gets into it Hell will freeze over
Hawperz:
Any city employee making over $60,000/year should pay their own Calpers contribution or insura ce for family
Mpseabee:
Let's follow Jarheafs lead
Mpseabee:
Heafs
jimmy:
Question for guest. sacramento city council makes between 62 and 63 thousand a year and the mayor makes about 120,000 thousand. How much do they make here?
Mpseabee:
Head
Sungold:
They all pay contributions to Cal Pers....I did, has it changed?
Sungold:
Came right out of my paycheck
Sungold:
Yes, $500 + and they get lifetime medical
Hawperz:
Calpers is going up
Mpseabee:
Good that you didn't work for the county Sun.
Mpseabee:
No contract for the union
Mpseabee:
People are too poor to strike
Mpseabee:
Lee's got a raise though.
Mpseabee:
City wants to raise our rates
Hawperz:
13 businesses?
Mike:
Sun: Just another one of the lies about PERS contributions. City employees have been paying their portion to PERS almost since the late 70's.
Mpseabee:
Lose neimeir
Mpseabee:
There's the money
CaptainKirk:
Remember... we have to wait till the end of the meeting
Mpseabee:
Lol
Sungold:
The community IS willing to pay for police and fire! We were NOT willing for it to go to the General Fund!
Mpseabee:
Carl..when will you address our questions?
Mpseabee:
Hooaa Sun!
Sungold:
That is what everyone I spoke to said and I spoke to lots!
Mpseabee:
Fiscal responsibility
CaptainKirk:
I think Carl's delaying some calls too
Mpseabee:
Is Carl scared of her?
Jarhead:
yeah as Francie says...forget about all the other stuff we have done...lets look at the good going forward...and she will say the same thing tomorrow about what she does today.... she just needs to step away
CaptainKirk:
Poof Francie
CaptainKirk:
Poor
CaptainKirk:
fat fingers
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Mpseabee:
Lol
Mpseabee:
Blah blah
Mpseabee:
Blah
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Mpseabee:
Bull
Jarhead:
she is mentally done...we have to pass it to see what's in it done...forget about what we did yesterday done...I can tell she is lying because her mouth is moving...
Mpseabee:
Her voice is shakey
Sungold:
Mp, why don't click off the sound if you do not want to hear her? You can also call in and ask her your questions
jimmy:
ahha, I knew Terry would call in
CaptainKirk:
What is needed is to actually TRUST that the money would go to law enforcement
Mpseabee:
Is she a demorat?
Jarhead:
yep
CaptainKirk:
yep
Mpseabee:
Figures
Jarhead:
big clinton fan
Mpseabee:
Tax and spend Francie
Mpseabee:
She probably wanted the council to have moments of silence cause old hillary lost
Sungold:
That is not true
CaptainKirk:
She'd lower the flag to half mast
Mpseabee:
Fact...#1 sex offenders capital
Mpseabee:
Redding
Sungold:
The AVERAGE employee does NOT make that much....upper level does
Jarhead:
many questions
Mpseabee:
Years a ho...RPD wanted a raise...they placed a billboard stating this is pedophiles paradise until the council caved
TickTock:
I don't think the average person makes that much either.
Mpseabee:
Ago
Jarhead:
that was NOT miscommunication ...that was the facts
CaptainKirk:
the chief could not state where he got his info
Sungold:
The average employee in my mind are the support staff, clerks, etc.
Mpseabee:
Transpatentcalifornia
TickTock:
Exactly Sun
Mpseabee:
Transparent
Mpseabee:
Anyone can look up every city employees from starman to the janitir
Hawperz:
The best people we can afford
Mpseabee:
Janitor
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jimmy:
What did terry say was the average city employee in the /usa make?
Jarhead:
'we can afford' ...its called a budget...she is just demented...
Mpseabee:
Lol
CaptainKirk:
She thinks that money is the reason that our employees are good to us... not their basic morality
Mpseabee:
Yep
Shastaminded:
I admire Francie for dedicating her life to public service. Even though I don't agree with the decisions all the time, she put herself out there with good intentions.
Jarhead:
somebody get her some help...this is sad
Mpseabee:
Shasta . Lol
CaptainKirk:
so if we pay them 200 grand a year they will be real nice
Mpseabee:
She's a high paid welfare recipient
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Hawperz:
Has Francie ever said no to a raise?
Jarhead:
make her a honorary something and lets get busy fixing our issues..
Mpseabee:
Minimum...never was a maximum
Sungold:
City of Redding employees used to get constant training on how to speak to the public and assist them...as if they needed that.
CaptainKirk:
Social Security gets big time compensation .ke 1 persent
Mpseabee:
Well..time for volunteers..or hire employees with lower salaries
CaptainKirk:
like 1 percent
Jarhead:
what does she know about running a ship ? she is just pulling sound bites out of what brain cells are left
Hawperz:
How do they justify wanting to buy the golf course?
Mpseabee:
The ship is listing
Jarhead:
redding community...you need to help her with the decision...she needs to retire...tomorrow
Mpseabee:
Due to the dean's steering
Sungold:
Carl, please tell her the community did want more fire and police. We voted No because of the money going to the General Fund!!
CaptainKirk:
You will have to lay people off if you raise salaries... don't give this woman a credit card... I mean it
Mpseabee:
We voted no because of crooked politicians
Jarhead:
exactly Sun
Mpseabee:
Fear Democrat mongering
Mpseabee:
We can save money by closing the pool
CaptainKirk:
Fire them all and start over
Hawperz:
Didn't Weaver say we need a time out?
Mpseabee:
Service the pool
Jarhead:
what ? think down the road ? project ? cut salaries ? live within a budget ?
Mpseabee:
Outsource the management of the pool
Mike:
Public safety should be thr first priority. Measures D and E should have been a "Parks and Trails vote.
Mpseabee:
Saved the city millions when they did that at the convention center
CaptainKirk:
Is Francie wearing camo?
Jarhead:
based on what she has done....its not easy to deal with her own actions...
Jarhead:
she pulled it out of somewhere but not her guts...
Mpseabee:
So true...no trust
Sungold:
Exactly
Mpseabee:
Integrity...I think they make their own definition
CaptainKirk:
These pensions should be in separate Trusts.
Mpseabee:
You think...facts are true
Jarhead:
100%
Mpseabee:
You can agree with proof
Jarhead:
Francie you are proff of that
Mpseabee:
Silly dean
Jarhead:
proof
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Mpseabee:
I forsee Francie retiring by forced recall
CaptainKirk:
Please, please ... I hope you are right
Mpseabee:
Recall
Sungold:
Time to get productive, have a nice weekend all...enjoy the rain
Mpseabee:
Recall
Mike:
Savemore high end?
Jarhead:
yeah...try and discredit the reason org group...they only solved part of the state of AZ pension issues and fly to Wash.DC weekly to assist on other communities issues...the numbers speak for themselves...get this person away from the check book
Jarhead:
recall
Mpseabee:
Yep
CaptainKirk:
RECALL
Mpseabee:
RECALL
Jarhead:
she is just SAD
Mike:
This is one of our leaders?
Mpseabee:
poor thing.
Mpseabee:
Well trained
Mike:
WE in trouble...
Mpseabee:
Smart.. lol