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Carl: Good morning

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Mike: Tish sounds like a typical politician.

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Sungold: Trish knows the ropes, she has been around her for a long time, and I wish we had more like her

Sungold: Ok Carl, get your facts straigjht

Sungold: REU has an option for people to donate to a fund for those who are having trouble paying their bills. It must be short of funds

Sungold: There are other people getting their power turned off too, not vets, but young families who fell on hard times and who have babies and small kids who are now cold in their own homes!

Sungold: I understand REU's position. Pay your bills or it gets turned off. They are running a business and it would be very easy for the "you owe me" types to take advantage and who do at every opportunity

Sungold: If it came to paying my power bill or going to a concert in San Francisco, I would choose power!

Sungold: Don Crandall of Redding CA has a book on the market about his experiences at Pearl Harbor. The Spies of Lanika. Great little book, it is on Amazon

Sungold: It is about his father Commander Donald Crandell, the son also, Don Crandall, was a teenager a the time

ProducerBadBob: Guest is Rachael Hatch, Institute For The Future.

ProducerBadBob: http://www.iftf.org/home/

ProducerBadBob: Think Debit Card on steroids.

ProducerBadBob: It's a universal exchange medium for value

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