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jimmy: odd

jimmy: got audio now

jimmy: need to step away for a bit. i'll be back

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Sungold: Happy Monday!

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ProducerBadBob: hello

jimmy: Hello sungold and Bob. ;)

Sungold: Smart move FBI....makes one feel so safe

Sungold: Hi Jimmy

jimmy: Yeah SG. You would think if someone tells you they are hearing voices in thier head and mentioned ISIS one wouldn't hand them back a firearm

jimmy: Carl what is this i hear about California DOJ useing submitting firearm instructors personal info to an unknown entity?

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ProducerBadBob: You think if the guy had been a Veteran they would have given the gun back and said "now play nice with others"

Joe: Redding boosting manager pay like this during a fiscal crisis and a crime wave just shows how incompetent our City leadership is

Mike: Nothing

Sungold: Totally stupid to have spoken to him and he admits to hearing voices telling him to join ISIS. Even I would know better than to hand him his weapon back

jimmy: alot of the crime is due to the rampant drug use here

jimmy: We need to get rid of the major heroin and meth traffickers.

Sungold: COR is slapping us in the face...Kurt Starman is not worth that kind of money. He is not a community minded City Manager

jimmy: trafficer's

Sungold: He is upping his salary, so when he retires he has a huge chunk each month

Sungold: He was there before I was there and my guess is he is very close to retirement

Mike: I believe Starman started in 1991.

Sungold: He was a 30 something then

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Mike: Really, that's it. No more discussion. Now on to another promotion of Warren's T.B.

Sungold: T.B.?

Mike: Turtle Bay

CityRaises: Jimmy, was there any discussion about DOJ giving out personal info of Firearms instructors ?

ProducerBadBob: You mean the council ?

jimmy: That is what I heard on Jefferson state of mine

Carl: The DoJ accidently released info on firearms instructors to include their birthdate, driver license info and more. They are sending out letters to those it hit. Ted Lidey got one.

jimmy: AHH. OK

Carl: "accidently"

jimmy: yeah oop's

Mike: Gift shop discussion? Really...Got better things to do

ProducerBadBob: Care to elaborate, Mike?

Carl: Every segment is important. Salaries, safety next. LRRY vuplw od Development department on at 8. Lots of questions there.

Carl: Larry Vauple

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jimmy: just to mention something about politics. I heard that Kamilla Harris was the first new senetor in 24 years. 24 years really? Talk about being intrenched.

XXter: What's really going on?

Joe: Permit process needs to be optimized to make life easy for the customer, and costs need to be slashed to the bone.

jimmy: senator

XXter: there's nothing but turtoes in turtle bay

XXter: How did Turtle Bay get it's name?

ProducerBadBob: Historically there are river turtles in those backwaters around the old quarry site.

jimmy: If anyone from Ireland comes here and says they are going to Eureka please, please tell them to stay away from the so called "Irish Pub" there. the owner couldn't pour a pint of Guinness to save his life. Not to mention the employee's playing mariachi music in the back

Sungold: When we traveled in our RV, we always noticed the Visitors Center sign on the side of the road. We always stopped to inquire about sights. Does Redding have signs for the center at incoming roads?

ProducerBadBob: There is that huge visitor center in Anderson, it's got good signage. and there's a USFS visitor center in Mountain Gate.

ProducerBadBob: Of course Whiskeytown NRA has the big center on the overlook.

jimmy: Hmmm, are there any tour guides in Redding?

jimmy: oh man dod you believe this ?

jimmy: Eric Holder in CVA, God save us

XXter: If anyone from Irland visits, is the war between the Catholics and Protestants over?

jimmy: Been there 3 times XXter, avoided that question at all costs

XXter: We should make Shasta county a sanctuary to preserve the right to bear arms

jimmy: But you can look at the security wall going through Belfast and it might answer your question

jimmy: or email Gerry Adams and ask him ;)

XXter: I don't plan to visit Ireland

XXter: What don't these politicians understand. We should not let government control our medical or we'll end up like canada

jimmy: awww, it is a beutiful country and the people are great

XXter: I lived on vancouver Island for 16 years.. I might return there.

jimmy: Canada? the place all those celebrities said they were going to move to if Trump was president?

XXter: Vancouver island is so beautiful

jimmy: I would like to check out BC

jimmy: how was it ?

XXter: the people are very much like we are

jimmy: as in we in SOJ/

XXter: the military type like republicans but the regular population has the same problem with socialism as our population does

jimmy: how are the gun rights there?

XXter: the Liberal party there is the conservative party... and the tories are like Democrats

XXter: It

XXter: its hard and expensive to get a permit.. but they didn't sign the UN treaty because of the gun rights issue

XXter: Obama signed us up and I hope Trump gives the UN the finger.

jimmy: lets hope so

XXter: so when it comes to the UN, Canada is more American than we are

XXter: I don't Kerry for the Obama administration

XXter: Larry moved from Hell to redding

jimmy: AHHA. How would he compare building permits here compared to Riverside.?

jimmy: I am in construction so be truthful

XXter: Ask Larry how much do you have to pay under the table to expedite permits?

jimmy: ouch XXter

Joe: a minefield of expensive bureaucracy = permit and planning process?

XXter: If RC had asked questions like that he would probably still live in Shasta county

jimmy: I do HVAC and yes Allianze is a good company. You will always hear bad things about any company,but it is the ones you hear bad things all the time. Allianze is definatley not one of those co's

jimmy: But dont tell my boss i said that HAHA

XXter: You're lucky I don't know him

jimmy: LOL

XXter: Love Ray charles

XXter: Us conservatives like Ray's music but did he vote conservative?

jimmy: a shell game

XXter: We need to have an island where they can't get drugs and they can dry out

jimmy: Can anyone answer this question.? why is it i have heard people tell me they have seen first hand missions and othe entities giving the homless a few bucks and a bus ticket to Redding to go to the mission here. THEN the mission here says the homeless are moslty from here. I dont believe the laterr

XXter: I think we could have a great organ downer program..

jimmy: unless they are tainted with hep c or hiv

jimmy: sorry brutal but true

XXter: discount prices

Sungold: Has Larry thought about seeking grants whch would pay for the hiring a couple of full time people to do code enforcement? Then develope a program using several volunteers and city staff to create a model program for other cities.

Sungold: It seems to me there are grants available to assist cities with some of these issues. OR, instead of Starman and others getting so many raises, they could hire someone from the city reserves. Nothing is going to get done with two retired part time folks

jimmy: sadley Sungold, it seems any funds that could be used for that are being sponged up by giving raises to people like MR. starman

XXter: yep

jimmy: ahh SG great minds think alike ;)

XXter: Our poor city employees.... they don't get raises fast enough

Sungold: That is just what I meant above when I said Starman is not community minded

XXter: I wonder if Starman served in the military?

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jimmy: The REALLY sad thing is thet the typical 9 to 5'er tax paying typical bugger does not know about all these raises and how much these people make

jimmy: Hi Maria, long time no see :)

drmaria: Yes Jimmy!! Hello!!!!!

drmaria: I love Testosterone!!! :)

jimmy: I know Carl wants to drag me there and strap me in the chair LOL

drmaria: Just go Jimmy - you will have a blast!

Joe: if the city had not given so many raises to employees we could afford full time sheep herders to manage our homeless population

Joe: and a goat herd should be added to the city staff, move it around to clean out the underbrush. 1. Eliminate fire hazard 2. Eliminate homeless hiding places

drmaria: Joe - I can donate my BC's

XXter: What we need to do is advertise that Sacramento gives better homless benefits

XXter: Free drugs in Sacramento

jimmy: What wee need to start is SOJ

Sungold: I love the idea of the goats....they do good work, keep on moving and ask for nothing except a pat on the head and more food

XXter: once they get there then Sacto has the psroblem

Sungold: Have to sent a goat herd with them, the homeless may look at them as possible dinner

XXter: That kind of sheep needs cattle prods to herd

ProducerBadBob: Naw, butchering and cooking something is entirely too much like work, Sunny. Easier to beg and steal your way to smokes, alcohol, heroin and cheap fast food

Sungold: Is Larry Vaupel related to Dr. Vance Vaupel in Redding (retired)?

Sungold: Ha, I see them in R&R meats buying some pretty good stuff from time to time

XXter: the key to getting rid of our homeless would be to send them to Florida where they can become alligator food.

jimmy: Sungold ,are you sure that wasn't me you seen when i am all dirty and grungy after work LOL

CityRaises: this guy doesn't want to say anything that could get starman down on him.,... doesn't want to move the needle...just gives it lip service..

XXter: When you get a permit, is it just a fee or is there something besides a piece of paper?

CityRaises: oh wait....a STUDY...well you didn't tell us that...a study should fix everything...HOW MUCH is this going to cost us ???

jimmy: question for guest. are the fee's higher here than Riverside?

XXter: mitigation is a scam attitude

CityRaises: mitigate... all it takes is MONEY... just pay the city a FEE...

XXter: sounds like extortion to me

CityRaises: maybe instead of us kicking them out of the county....maybe they should mitigate... just PAY US a fee

XXter: I don't like what our government has come to be

XXter: sounds a lot like Mafioso stuff

Sungold: LOL, I don't think so Jimmy, I know you would make eye contact and smile from time to time

Sungold: There is a difference between the hard working contractors and laborers (usually seen out at Kent Meats) and the homeless

XXter: I'm sure glad we don't have to put our real names in this chat room.. because I feel real hostile about what I hear coming out of Larrys gray matter

Sungold: I have a few times seen the homeless in Safeway's deli section ordering food.

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XXter: I'd like to do a study on whether we can do without a permits and plannig department

jimmy: From what I heard, the owners of R+R meats wanted to piant parking stripes in their parking lot. The city comes along and say's " If you paint stripes in your parking lot, you must also put in lighting and tree's' All of which they would have to get permits for. YUP

XXter: extortion

jimmy: yup

Joe: I was amazed when I visited the planning/permit dept in Redding and they told me that changing a garbage disposal to another of the same make and model required a permit.

Sungold: I love their big parking lot and so do the truckers who come in with those big loads. So much nicer for them too. Who needs strips. All it takes is manners and courtesy

XXter: I say have a study on doing away with half the jobs in our city hall

drmaria: BB!!!!!! You Rock!!! #BumpIt

Sungold: Joe, that is just plain crap! Jeez how many garbage disposals have we replaced, faucets, hot water dispensers, soap dispensers, etc.

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CousinVinni: By a permit from me and I can make your problems go away.

CousinVinni: Buy

drmaria: ^^^^^^Bahahahahahahaha

CousinVinni: Need to get rid of the homeless problem.. no problem just pay a fee

CousinVinni: Pretty soon permits will be as much as the items they permit to happen

CityRaises: they only care about the fees because they need to offset their raises... we are bloated with city employee (managers) it's time to PURGE

CousinVinni: I think costco could get off cheaper and provide more without government mitigation

jimmy: crickets

KK: The store that occupied the Carpet one store was earlier occupied by Sharon's Office Supply, I think the first occupant, did Sharon pay the impact fees also? This store opened before the big box office supply stores came to Redding and I am sure that it had more traffic thn the carpet store.

drmaria: "I, I, I"

CityRaises: and why shoulod he know that....he is ONLY in charge !!!

CityRaises: should

jimmy: herre we go

jimmy: BS

CousinVinni: This guy thinks government is god

jimmy: paint doesnt cause runoff DER

CityRaises: if I am starman....I find only people that are sheep and will continue my creation of a bloated public service group

jimmy: B.....S.....

CousinVinni: I say do a ten year study of what it's like not to have a city planning department

jimmy: circumvent, circumvent

Sungold: He is not answering the question specific to R & R meats

CousinVinni: These government hacks are going to permit us to death

CityRaises: they should be asking for taxpayer money to install toilet paper rolls on trees in the homeless camps...it's coming...schreder will introduce it at any time...lol

jimmy: we all know lighting will stop runoff

CousinVinni: We even have to get a permit every two years to defend ourselves