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Joe:
Who is Gary?
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TwoAndAHalfMinutesLeft:
people have been asking ..who is Gary for many years
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Sungold:
Happy Friday!
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TickTock:
What can the Win River do to help the community with the cost of law enforcement, the jails, etc.?
Joe:
new annex to county jail !
Red:
We need solutions
TickTock:
We need $$$!
Mike:
There is no plan...
Red:
No, we have what we need. Just no will to use it
TickTock:
How so Red?
Red:
There have been a number of solutions brought forward for infastructure, manpower, etc
Red:
Good solutions, viable solutions
TickTock:
Help me out Red. What are they?
Red:
And all we hear is "no, we can't do that"
Red:
CSO volunteers
Joe:
need the money for more manager salary increases
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TickTock:
Sales Tax? Nope - shot down because of the pension problem. Reorganize RDP? Nope - Paoletti won't have it. Build an annex for rehab of prisioners? Nope - Board of Supes says there's no money. So just what are the viable solutions?
Red:
Carl's idea with Marine Portables
Red:
A tent jail
TickTock:
If only we could do a tent jail. But we are in California - land of the lawsuits for prisoners and they win them. Can't afford the lawsuit.
Red:
When super say "no money" they mean for them or their friends
TwoAndAHalfMinutesLeft:
we may need to start talking about collapsing the police department inside of the Sheriff's department...city and county are both in trouble and may need to share resources..
Red:
What I mean tick tick, no will
Red:
To
TickTock:
The Board of Supervisors is worthless when it comes to the legal problems and incarceration. I can't believe Moty was ever in law enforcement.
Red:
Do what needs to be done
TwoAndAHalfMinutesLeft:
he lacks the intelligence or will to do anything that has creativity
TickTock:
Easy to say "do what needs to be done" but the leadership is stymied at every turn. Useless leadership.
Red:
build the tent jail and tell California to pound sand
Joe:
employees going on strike in redding. Replace them with a new category of employee, 401K and no pension.
TwoAndAHalfMinutesLeft:
Many of us in our travels and careers have been around amazing leaders...unfortunately..we have people in these positions currently the have no leadership skills...none..
TickTock:
The striking employees can do just what the rest of us do when we're not happy with our job. Go find another one.
TwoAndAHalfMinutesLeft:
the pension...401a is on the table...and if the county gets it...it will set a precedence for the city employees as well...it has to happen
TickTock:
Or just eliminate pensions as a benefit.
TickTock:
They can get by on social security assuming they pay into it.
TickTock:
Or just work until you die. That is another retirement option.
Mike:
The only way "real change" can happen: Wholesale change in Sacramento
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Sungold:
Pedicures, manicures, facials, and massages....both men and women should do it. So good for your skin and body if done by a pro.
Sungold:
Even in bad times, people find the money to take care of the body like this. I know some who will eat beans rather than steak in order to get the money for the treatments
TwoAndAHalfMinutesLeft:
let me quote..."the first thing Carl wanted to do when he came back from Iraq, get a manicure and a pedicure" ...I think we found our mole ....this is how all of our men secrets have been getting out
TwoAndAHalfMinutesLeft:
Pension is the big one
TwoAndAHalfMinutesLeft:
401a
drmaria:
Do they lose their benefits
drmaria:
while they are on strike?
TwoAndAHalfMinutesLeft:
just a switch
TwoAndAHalfMinutesLeft:
no
TwoAndAHalfMinutesLeft:
but it is unpaid strike time
drmaria:
So my County patients can still come in to get seen?
TwoAndAHalfMinutesLeft:
they will have more time maybe you could offer them donuts and coffe
drmaria:
Bahahaha!!
drmaria:
Yes, they will have time. I can offer Fox News....
drmaria:
LOL
Mike:
Which plan pays 100% @ 30 years?
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Red:
Callers is toast
Red:
Callers
Red:
Ahh
Joe:
Cal Pers?
Red:
Calpers
Red:
Yes
drmaria:
Community Journalism will take over covering things like this watch out for it on FB
Red:
Tricking Apple
Joe:
CalPers needs to be fixed and fast, it is bankrupting the state and county and city
Red:
No fix Joe, it's toast
TwoAndAHalfMinutesLeft:
wait wait wait....we only have 2 and a half minutes left... and by the time it took for me to type this 30 seconds was gone...2 minutes left
Joe:
fix = nuked.
Mike:
Which Cal Pers plan pays 100% @ 30 years? More FAKE news.
Joe:
payout needs to be based on actual returns, not artifical returns subsidized by the taxpayer
TwoAndAHalfMinutesLeft:
I would not be surprised to see Trump demand a solution for CALPERS from Brown...as the fund is insured by the federal govt...PBGC
TwoAndAHalfMinutesLeft:
I take that back...CALPERS may not be insured ...
Red:
Gotta run. Good day all
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TwoAndAHalfMinutesLeft:
Carl, does the GOVT already have an access line thru there with natural gas ? aren't they putting the new line in the same access ?
Joe:
already have pipelines there
Joe:
and the pipeline does not cross tribe land?
TwoAndAHalfMinutesLeft:
QUESTIONS are we going to hear any ??/
Joe:
this is where badbob usually tells us the phone number
TwoAndAHalfMinutesLeft:
lol
TwoAndAHalfMinutesLeft:
Carl is distracted
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Shastaminded:
Trump says DAPL is needed so it is needed. Period.
Joe:
built? Assembled is more accurate.
Shastaminded:
There is no evidence that the pipeline will harm the environment.
TwoAndAHalfMinutesLeft:
is it on tribal land and does it go along the existing right of way ?
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Russell:
What are the tribe's plan for their property immediately north of the existing casino ?
Joe:
Formal homeless encampment?
Russell:
The Missouri River has numerous pipelines under it. Look at a pipeline map.
Russell:
I own 1 acre on the Standing Rock Res and nobody asked me anything.
TwoAndAHalfMinutesLeft:
so its not on tribal land... it is running a long an existing 'right of way' ... the elders of those tribes received compensation for that right of way...
Sungold:
I have been out of the room, has the subject of their new facility south of Churn Creek Rd near I5 been discussed. Specifically, when will they be starting it
Shastaminded:
Ridiculous. The Sioux nation was paid its money. Just becuase they want to play games by not accepting it is silly. Get off the welfare roles and take care of your own tribe members with the money.
Joe:
2 years of environemental reviews Sungold
Sungold:
Thanks Joe, wow two years for environmental reviews for a flat piece of property on !5.
Shastaminded:
Again, there is no evidence that DAPL will harm the enironment. Absurd argument.
Joe:
there are burial sites all over the place, that does not grant ownership of the land. My relatives are buried all over Baltimore and I have no claim to that land.
Russell:
There are numerous private properties on the res. I also own land on the Yurok. I want a big bag of money too!
Joe:
if the tribe cared about those spots they would own those spots and maintain them. Abandoned = no rights
TwoAndAHalfMinutesLeft:
why this is even news...the people putting in the pipeline own the easement
drmaria:
Native American Arch monitors
TwoAndAHalfMinutesLeft:
I'm like 1/16 cherokee...can I have some money
drmaria:
I am more Native American then a lot of people....don't get me started. I've done the testing.
TwoAndAHalfMinutesLeft:
spot on Joe... they wouldn't have sold them in the first place
TwoAndAHalfMinutesLeft:
you have been tested alright...and you have been found wanting !!! lol
Joe:
my family lost land in the Revolutionary War, can I get compensation please?
Russell:
The Feds own the right of way on behalf of the company. In fact all interstate pipelines require Federal approval. So its Obama's fault !
TwoAndAHalfMinutesLeft:
check is in the mail Joe
Shastaminded:
I am 33% English. May I have my share of the Crown Jewels please?
TwoAndAHalfMinutesLeft:
on their way Shasta
TwoAndAHalfMinutesLeft:
wait by the mailbox
Shastaminded:
Good! I want to donate the funds to a new jail.
Joe:
The reservation system was a crime against the Native Americans and should have been abolished generations ago.
Russell:
Major Reading's family has the right to all the land from Cottonwood to Caldwell Park. Of course the Mexican government stole it from the tribes . So at what point in time do we stop at ?
Shastaminded:
Natives should have been fully integrated into society generations ago.
Shastaminded:
Maybe Trump will abolish the BIA. Good for him if he does.
Joe:
"hillary has a long reach back"
Joe:
The words nightmares are made from
Mike:
What or where is "indian country"?
Shastaminded:
Indian country wants to benefit of law enforcement, water and utilities, etc. without having to pay anything for it. Yet they say the are a soverign nation.
Shastaminded:
*wants the benefit of law enforcement
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TwoAndAHalfMinutesLeft:
they have multiple layers in the pipes and sensors that alert if there is a leak
Joe:
Once again, there are multiple pipelines there already
Shastaminded:
Well - there you go. All this protest with no evidence the system will leak.
TwoAndAHalfMinutesLeft:
the builders don't have to "bend it" .. they own the easement... they already have pipelines thru there...
Mike:
So a solution was offered and then poohed. They don't want a solution.
TwoAndAHalfMinutesLeft:
they want a pay off
Shastaminded:
DAPL benefits the whole nation. Keeps us from being dependent on terrorist nation oil.
Russell:
Pipelines have a pipe within a pipe. There are pressure sensors at numerous junctures. I worked on the Union Oil pipeline in the valley. There can be leaks but the pumps clutch out immediately if the pressure changes. Lake Oahe has some barge traffic. It is immediately above Pierre, S.D. who don't
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Russell:
seem to mind. The railroads have pipelines next to them so there are numerous pipelines crossing rivers EVERYWHERE.
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Joe:
new jobs are housekeeping? just what we need, more minimum wage jobs
Shastaminded:
You can be sure that the tribe is making money off the medi-cal visits. That was just easy math.
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