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Todd: How about General Warrants, NSA Spying and the PATRIOT Act

Todd: "Too big to fail" = too big to jail.

Tatonka: Yep

Todd: Pay a couple of days worth of profits, and carry on just like before

Lyndia: Yes just move along there is nothing to see here

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Todd: The biggest new this week is the NSA spying.

linda: hi

Todd: A U.S. spying program that systematically collects millions of Americans' phone records is illegal, a federal appeals court ruled on Thursday,

Todd: contrary to claims by the Bush and Obama administrations.

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sflow: nobody ever knows were he;s coming from lol

Todd: Parallel Construction: How the NSA and Police Have Rigged the Legal System

Todd: While the NSA is unconstitutionally listening in on the conversations of American citizens in the proclaimed hopes of uncovering a terrorist plot, if they happen to hear someone discussing a shipment of drugs for example,

Todd: they will pass on this illegally collected information to the Department of Justice (DOJ).

Todd: “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated” except by a search warrant issued by a judge upon probable cause.”

Todd: The unit of the DEA that distributes the information is called the Special Operations Division, or SOD. Two dozen partner agencies comprise the unit, including the FBI, CIA, NSA, Internal Revenue Service and the Department of Homeland Security.

Todd: But two senior DEA officials defended the program, and said trying to "recreate" an investigative trail is not only legal but a technique that is used almost daily.

Todd: A dozen current or former federal agents interviewed by Reuters confirmed they had used parallel construction during their careers. Most defended the practice; some said they understood why those outside law enforcement might be concerned.

Todd: "That's outrageous," said Tampa attorney James Felman, a vice chairman of the criminal justice section of the American Bar Association. "It strikes me as indefensible."

Todd: just move along there is nothing to see here

Todd: How can anyone get a fair trial, as guaranteed by the Constitution, if the true origins of the case are being hidden?

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Lyndia: Have a great day and please thank a Veteran

Todd: I will