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eddie515:
We are live!!
RTE:
that's better than dead.
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eddie515:
Roger that
RTE:
There are a lot of Dam Lawyers around.
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eddie515:
Not enough Dam Lawyers in this case
RTE:
I think the natives are being swindled over this deal. They will that they are left being vulnerable to the weather. Money will be spent and they will be left with nothing.
RTE:
Imeant to typ:They will find
eddie515:
How again are they being swindled?
eddie515:
What about the real property owners on the lakes and the irrigators who are being effected
RTE:
They are looking at the money they will receive ... not the fish
eddie515:
What about the tax payers who are paying the bill and will get to pay the cleanup bill when they remove the dams
eddie515:
Why should the natives get any money?
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RTE:
I feel they are all driving around in our economy using sll the nice things thst we have developed through progress. And now they want the dams gone so thst they will eventually live in a fairy tail world of their forefathers... They should realize thst their forefathers had it tough
RTE:
s = a
RTE:
I watched Erin type with a stylist... how neat. I'm typing with index fingers now so I don't hit the s. I hate the laptop heyboard, mainly ecause of the mouse pad that causes weird things to happen.
RTE:
Your guest just hit the mark. the natives have no respect for our farming setup.
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RTE:
I was at the meeting, and you should have seen the surprised look at the fact that there was a lawyer representing the citizens of siskyou there.
SacajaweahSistah:
Mr. Sheet's entire work history has had major negative impact on commercial fishing, farming cattle, tourism, recreation,eroding local city/county budgers...One Guy for 39 years has cut a wide swath across the Northwest.
RTE:
They don't like competition
SacajaweahSistah:
Feds targer is food production and takedowns of private sector businesses
RTE:
They are Dam Lawyers
SacajaweahSistah:
Yep...damn lawyers!
eddie515:
The Feds want everyone off the land
RTE:
damn dam lawyers
SacajaweahSistah:
Right on!
RTE:
Can someone say Agenda 21
SacajaweahSistah:
RE: "Caveman, Time Immorial Water Rights...:" Anything PRE-Constitutional is UNConstitutonal - but you lie often and long enough, and it's tough to beat until you get into the Higher Courts
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SacajaweahSistah:
Agenda 21 lingo has now beein incorporated into BIA federal regulations for tribes, as well as into EPA Indian policy regulations. Yep - tribes and reservations are helpfu Launchpads for Agenda 21!
ChiefDamGeorge:
Me likum Salmon
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Erin:
coho at Costco - not endangered I guess
Erin:
can't find any other endangered species ... hmmm, curious
ChiefDamGeorge:
Me nettum inbig river
eddie515:
Take out the dams and there will be NO river in the summer time!
SacajaweahSistah:
Where's the hard science that says a specific ethnicity's DNA is legally linked to ownership of a fish - salmon; an animal, bison; our American Bald Eagle? This is one of the major Hoaxes against all Americans who respect and enjoy all of God's Kingdom...It's not narrowed to just one ethnicity.
ChiefDamGeorge:
Me go to Costco then
ChiefDamGeorge:
Dams keep the river from flooding too
ChiefDamGeorge:
Me RTE havun fun
ChiefDamGeorge:
Me likum Kogan
SacajaweahSistah:
Ne kujyn ChiefDamGeorge too!
ChiefDamGeorge:
Me thinkum lawsuit can stop destruction..
SacajaweahSistah:
Oooops. I meant Me Likum ChiefDamGeorge - hit the wrong keys again
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SacajaweahSistah:
The Federal Operatives in Montana, Northern CA and Oregon NOT likum Kogan...He's their coming Trainwreck!
ChiefDamGeorge:
Me no likum small keyboard
sflow:
lol
SacajaweahSistah:
Yep... Mre Princess Eleven Thumbs!
sflow:
u too make lousy in¿uns lol !!!!!!
sflow:
not the hosts .i mean the too ¿erks in here lol !!!!!!
ChiefDamGeorge:
What me want to know is why my people no understand that BIG INJUNS in DAM.
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ChiefDamGeorge:
Cruz sleaping with Goldman Sacs.. Makes me nervious
ChiefDamGeorge:
Me likum Trump
sflow:
wb ed !!!!
eddie515:
Trump talks about a lot of things he won't have the power to do, unles you want a dictator like we have now
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eddie515:
I like the tone, don't get me wrong, but cvan he really get it done?
Dave:
Ryan Sabalow writes good pieces on the dams for Sac Bee. Upward mobility compared to the R-S.
SacajaweahSistah:
Trump fundamentally loves this country; is taking serious personal life-threatening risk, great economic loss in order to service the country. What's not to like? Cruz loves Cruz...
ChiefDamGeorge:
Maybe good time for dictator...gotta reverse cow dung made by last dictator..
Erin:
I'm never happy with the enviro slant but he has a lot more info than the RS articles we get
SacajaweahSistah:
Go check out Alex Jones on Trump...THAT's the real story!
eddie515:
Donald Loves Donald, don't be confused.
sflow:
lol
Dave:
The dams are going to be removed. It will be a success like the other dam removals. When you take out a dam, the silt creates an estuary. Estuaries are the nurseries for marine life which feed the salmon. It will be a huge success and a big embarrasment to Doug LaMalfa. He should educate himsel
SacajaweahSistah:
Well hopefully, all here love this country...
ChiefDamGeorge:
Me likum Donald's private jet...it beatum Air Rorce One
eddie515:
If elected, when it's all said and done, Donald will continue to be a rich man
Dave:
LaMalfa should educate himself about basic marine biology and oceanography. He is a farmer, but he should represent all of us. Small business, indian tribes, etc are important in the First district.
ChiefDamGeorge:
Me no likum small keyboard
sflow:
i pledge aliengece to the firdt nations !!!!!!!!!!!
sflow:
first
Erin:
There is a very large body of science that would beg to differ with the rosey post dam picture painted by the agencies
eddie515:
Are you kidding me Dave, an estuarie made of heavy metals from the bottom of the lake. Can you say"Super Fund Site"
sflow:
iron mt lol !!!!!!!
ChiefDamGeorge:
Me thinkum that damns are too important to remove. I say we needum BIG LAWSUIT
Erin:
21 MILLION cubic yards of sediment
Erin:
even pixie dust in that amount would be a HUGE issue
Erin:
79% of the voters in Siskiyou County voted on an advisory measure G to keep the dams IN. I'd say he's representing his district pretty well on the topic.
Dave:
The flow of silt is essential to nourish estuaries. It is constantly being removed by the California current. Does LaMalfa actually believe that estuaries are not important?
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eddie515:
What would be the up side to dam removal?
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sflow:
copco lake has great fishing !!!!!!!!!!!
eddie515:
Do you think that much sludge will not damage spawning beds, that requires gravel that will be buried under tons of mud
Erin:
wrong question, Dave. How do you deal with the warm water coming out of Klamath Lake that is currently cooled by the reservoirs for the coho they love so much?
sflow:
luv the perch hehe :_)
Erin:
the vantage point or the fish?
Dave:
In any case, it is going to happen and Doug will go down in flames.
Dave:
Dam removal has already happened in WA and is a huge success. Talk to a marine biologist before you make silly assumptions
Erin:
read the reports by Dr. Paul Hauser - scientific integrity officer for DOI fired for saying that taking out the dams would be a disaster
sflow:
iron gate res has good fishing too !!!!!!!
eddie515:
In any case, there is going to be huge cost incured by the tax payers to clean up the mess
sflow:
have fished them both over the yrs !!!!
Dave:
What figure are you using for the percentage of power provided by the dams for Pacificorps? I recall it is less than 3%
Dave:
The normal flow of heavy metals down any river is will within what the ocean can handle.
eddie515:
It's ok to release as long as the ocean can handle it? What kind of BS is that?
sflow:
lol
Dave:
The indians want fishing, not potatoes
sflow:
we do both dave !!!!!!!!
eddie515:
nd they are ok with eating the fish that swim in that stuff?
eddie515:
I don't think so
ChiefDamGeorge:
Fish better off with water. Some years DRY YEARS. Only need ngoodum ladders
Dave:
The dam removals in WA have produced a bountiful increase in fishing. That's what an estuary does.
sflow:
ed look at the crab seasons this yr ?¿? !!!!
eddie515:
Once they release the heavy metals into the ocean, those crabs should be really tasty
ChiefDamGeorge:
Me really likum Logan
sflow:
look at the mercury in shasta lake !!!!!!
eddie515:
Look at Iron MT.
ChiefDamGeorge:
Me say drudge lake. Sediment sometimes good fertilizer and maybe findum GOLD TOO
Dave:
Those heavy metals are inert oxides with solubility products on the order of 0.000000000000000000001 The exponent is about -20 (20 zeroes after the decimal)
sflow:
all from the copper mines back then !!!!!!!!
sflow:
and goldminning
Dave:
The inert metal oxides are heavier and will be covered by carbonates and silicates. That's how an estuary works.
eddie515:
Wow where did you get that crap? The numbers I'm reading about are much, much higher. So I guess it depends who you beleive
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eddie515:
Agenda 21 is not happening either
ChiefDamGeorge:
D4Linthicum comin and goin
sflow:
how many superfunds are in the usa. and how many are in cali ?¿? !!!!!!!!
ChiefDamGeorge:
No water no business
eddie515:
We have one in our back yard.
sflow:
yaaaa iron mt
ChiefDamGeorge:
Irronical
Dave:
LaMalfa is going to look foolish when the dams are removed and a high value fishery replaces low value potato farms and ranches.
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ChiefDamGeorge:
No strawberries. Any1 thinkun bout that?
eddie515:
What's going to happen to the hatchery that is at the dam site now? Or did you forget about that.
SacajaweahSistah:
So Dave, the whole area will be forced onto a fish diet as all crop production is ripped away? That's a good deal?
sflow:
lamalfa is feeding his fields with the same heavy metal too lol !!!!!!
ChiefDamGeorge:
Save the Strawberries...Leave the dams be
sflow:
glowing rice hehe !!!!!!!!
Jeff:
The strawberries don't need the dams to grow. They'll grow with or without those tiny dams
sflow:
works great on night time weddings hehe !!!!!!
Jeff:
Their storage capacity is miniscule.
ChiefDamGeorge:
Siskiyou big nstrawberry production area.
ChiefDamGeorge:
Me no likum small keyboard
sflow:
it all goes into the ocean !!!!
Dave:
LaMalfa should make an appointment with some faculty at HSU oceanography and get educated.
Jeff:
That may be the case but they don't need the dams.
sflow:
the ocean is nothing but a huge gutter lol !!!!!!!
ChiefDamGeorge:
After Jerry get through w2ith tunnel,water go to fracking
ChiefDamGeorge:
Me no likum small keyboard
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sflow:
buy a bigger keyboard lol !!!!!!
ChiefDamGeorge:
No wantum tower in bed
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sflow:
that why there soooo many perch there !!!!
ChiefDamGeorge:
Me takum it easy this mornin...maybe good day to die?
ChiefDamGeorge:
Ladders work best for fish
sflow:
super dave hehe
ChiefDamGeorge:
Dave brave but don't sound like native
eddie515:
Dave was actually interesting this time. I wish more people would go to the wbsite and get educated about this issue.
ChiefDamGeorge:
Doug working hard on this.
Erin:
I've included his letter to the stakeholder group and bureaucrats on the website. It's really good. Nothing PC about it.
sflow:
will super dave jump into copco lake with a suit coverd with small hooks with worms and see how many perch he can catch hehe lol ?¿? !!!!!!!!!!!!
eddie515:
He is totally doing what the people in that county want him to do.
ChiefDamGeorge:
Me thinkun this BIG SWINDLE
ChiefDamGeorge:
25 m0re minute
sflow:
you guys need a bigger clock in the room lol !!!!!!!
ChiefDamGeorge:
Me no likum small keyboard
eddie515:
I never look up to see the time
eddie515:
Don't have time
sflow:
:-)
ChiefDamGeorge:
Me no likum digital clock.. me likun twirly bird
eddie515:
The American people should be pissed at what these people are trying to pull.
Dave:
Dam removal will greatly benefit Shasta County and all the counties touching the Sacramento River. Salmon eat forage fish (baitfish to old timers) produced by the estuary. High value salmon, crab and rockfish fisheries will benefit all of N. CA. Low value potatoes can be grown just about anywhere
ChiefDamGeorge:
People dancin with stars.. no care
sflow:
do you mean the in¿uns people edd ?¿? !!!!!
eddie515:
We really need a President who knows how to say,"You're Fired"
Erin:
A LOT!
Erin:
Let's start with VA
ChiefDamGeorge:
yay dictator Trump
sflow:
that a diff show erin hehe !!!!!!
SacajaweahSistah:
People throughout the Northwest ARE pissed at the federal jackbook, capturing state and private water rights, taking down dams, running ranchers off their properties, and softening the Western States for Agenda 21 visions...infuriating!
sflow:
charging for water wells !!!!!
eddie515:
Next you'll be telling me the Delta Smelt are more important than the citizens of California
Dave:
The oceanographers and marine biologists are right. It is going to happen. It is going to be a success.
eddie515:
Well if they say it , it must be so!
sflow:
can they can the smelt hehe !!!!!
ChiefDamGeorge:
Closed doors should be banned
ChiefDamGeorge:
Me no trustum closed doors
sflow:
a little evvo or tomate sause hehe !!!!!
Erin:
You have to cultivate great sources to stay ahead of these guys
eddie515:
No, but they can put stupidity in a can and someone has been into it
eddie515:
Do your Oceanographers and biologists have names?
Dave:
Estuary renewal is a complex topic. Google "Elwha" to see what a success it has been.
sflow:
are siene nets alouad up here for fishing ?¿? !!!!
eddie515:
I would really like to know how they arrived at their conclusions
sflow:
i know you can use crawdad traps up here
Dave:
When a river is dammed, the estuary is deprived of the normal flow of silt California had much richer fisheries before the dams.
eddie515:
And they had very little agriculture and very little flood control
sflow:
can you spear fish up here ?¿?
sflow:
at shasta
eddie515:
So I guess we should just blow the dams and then more to high ground and start importing our food
Dave:
The Klamath dams contribute little to the economy. Removal would produce a benefit to the fishery which far outweighs the cost.
sflow:
bs dave
eddie515:
Come on sflow, you know the answer
sflow:
¿ello eddie
eddie515:
Are you not listening Dave? They are huge to the economy of the area
sflow:
didnt think you knew i was here lol
eddie515:
I love you man!
eddie515:
I thought you wanted to spear me!
sflow:
anything in¿un you know i here hehe lol !!!!!!
eddie515:
Help me out with educating Dave
sflow:
i not like those to fake in¿uns
eddie515:
He seems to think the fish are all that matters
Erin:
fish lives matter
sflow:
its the whole eco system edd
eddie515:
LOL
Erin:
implied: screw humans
sflow:
we need the water up here
eddie515:
No we need to flush all the water into the Ocean
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sflow:
i want to start a garden
sflow:
before they say we cant :-(
ChiefDamGeorge:
Jerry likum use water for frackin
Erin:
no kidding. how funny was that!
ChiefDamGeorge:
Me washum car yeserday
sflow:
i already looking at weeds to weedwhack lol !!!!!
sflow:
i rather be growing vegis !!!!!!!
ChiefDamGeorge:
anyone in siskiyou named Pelosi?
sflow:
omg he say that not in a bad in¿un accent lol !!!!!!!
ChiefDamGeorge:
ME RTE
eddie515:
If she came to visit, they would roast her in the fire
ChiefDamGeorge:
Dave sure changed his tune..
sflow:
did you get a new keyboard rte lol !!!!!!!!
ChiefDamGeorge:
Me no likum small keyboard
Erin:
hey RTE, can you send me the video of the food fight at the meeting from last wednesday. It was about the last 20 minutes or so? Actually, if you could put the public comment and the brawl afterward on YouTube I'd love to post it!!!!!
ChiefDamGeorge:
no changum yet
sflow:
lol